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Re: just bought an RL [algoodman]
by dib on Sun Apr 24 18:08:43 PDT 2005
Does the new V710 software upgrade show the incoming phone number or address book name assigned within the phone's address book on the RL display? That way I could decide whehter to answer or not. DIB
Re: just bought an RL [spenglo]
by dib on Sat Apr 23 13:10:49 PDT 2005
Spenglo: Great to hear about your success with the email form of negotiation. You got a great price. Some notes to your notes: * A particular dealer's inventory has absolutely no bearing on its pricing. They simply get on the phone and call other dealer's until they find your color RL and can have it within 24 hours - they simply have an employee drive an RL they have on their lot to the dealer that has your color and drive your color back, leaving the other one. Each dealer knows it has to agree because there will come a time when they need the same favor. It may even be in their dealership agreement with Acura. My dealer in central CT told me that the furthest he ever had to drive to pick up a car was Syracuse (4 hours) but rarely has to go outside CT (2 hours). I closed my deal around 6:30 PM on a Wednesday night and he had my color on his lot by 2:00 PM the next day. * I found that if I started my price at 5-6% above dealer cost, almost every dealer (~ 12) replied with an offer. Only one came in at my price. This was in about 1 hour. I then sent a second email out about 4 hours (5 PM) after my first email offer and mentioned what the best offer was at that time and asked for "best and final" offers and got two offers at $1000 below my original offer price. They were not from my preferred, closest dealer, but I phoned him and gave him the courtesy of matching the lowest offer which he did. I then drove out and put down the deposit and filled out the paperwork. From start of my email process to deposit was 5.5 hours. If a dealer phoned me ( and I did not include my phone number but some figured it out), I had them put into voice mail. I may have been able to get another $500 or so knocked off if I kept it up for a few days or a week but it was not worth the hassle to me. My dealer told me that the price I got was $2000 less than the next cheapest price he had ever agreed to. May be BS, but it was the last day of the month and the quarter (which is very important in my view due to the incentives they get at both of those time points). * I have had the car for 3 weeks now and love it. Just got back from a 6 day tour of colleges with my wife and HS daughter to parts unknown and had the nav system get us everywhere, and even recommend restaurants (using Zagat's), all of which worked out great. The nav system does have its strangenesses (as do all), and if you know a local area well, you will disagree with its routing, but it will get you exactly where you need to be, perhaps a few minutes longer driving then if you were a local. The quickness with which it re calculates directions is amazing. * My bluetooth Motorola V710 has synced perfectly with the car, except that some of the phone's symbols do not show up on the dash (such as signal strength or phone number of incoming call). I was at my Verizon store today and talked to a knowldegable technician who said that even wiht the software upgrade for the V710, Acura RLs and TLs will not display all info on the car's dash. It is a Verizon/Motorala blue tooth issue; nothing to do with Acura. I also thank everyone who writes on the board; it has been one of the most useful boards I have ever used. From rainy CT (where I used my wipers for the first time today and drove intentionally through the deepest puddles I could find with no hydroplaning), drive happy and safely, DIB
Recent CT pricing - revised
by dib on Wed Mar 30 23:51:56 PST 2005
CR suggested offering 4% to 8% over its reported wholesale.
Recent CT pricing
by dib on Wed Mar 30 23:49:19 PST 2005
Yesterday I purchase a 2005 RL for: $46,000 incl. Destination ChargeConveyance Fee $279 Conveyance Fee Total: $46,279 plus sales tax and DMV registration fees. Method: Sent email at 1:30 PM 3/30 to all dealers within 75 miles (12) with offer to purchase and terms (specific color; no options; cash; no trade-in) with intent to close by end of business 3/31 (end of month and quarter helps). Within 2 hours had four offers; lowest was $46,200 from 2nd closest dealer. Then phoned salesman at the (closest)dealer where I had test driven car who had heard from Sales Manager about my email and told him that another dealer had beaten their email price ($47,000 plus $279)and told him how much. Within 15 minutes had called back to drop price to $46k. Drove over after work and signed paper and gave $3k deposit (max he would allow) on credit card. Car not on lot but says will have in by weekend. Just calls around until finds another dealer with color/leather and then drives different one over and trades for mines which he drives back. Says furthest he ever had to go was Syracuse (4 hour drive). Later in evening, two far away dealers offered to meet original $46k offer too. I had picked $46k based on recent discussions on this board plus info from Consumers Reports new car report ($12) which gave wholesale price including some give backs and then offered 6% over that. CR suggested offering 4 to 6% above its wholesale price and then working up. With offer of 6% profit (maybe more if holdbacks CR doesn't know about) and use of email with never a phone call or visit to haggle, got 8 of 12 dealers to bid and got my price. Maybe could have started and gotten lower but am very happy with ease of process and feeling in control. Winning salesman told me $46 k was lowest they had ever gone; usually go to $48k only. May be BS. I may have my car by late today or tomorrow, and winning dealer was very friendly with no bad vibes when I went in to give deposit last evening. In my experience, end of month and especially end of quarter is optimal time to deal - they want to get cars off their books (if not off their lot). Happy hunting and driving. DIB Hartford, CT area

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