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2008 STS
Written by: hypjess on Mar 7, 2010 6:51:23 AM
I am looking at a 2008 STS with 9800 miles on it. It is a a new cadillac dealer and was a GM buyback for at 8 miles they replaced pass seat cushion, replaced battery 1700 miles, replaced grill, flat tire and wiper at 2900 inflatable seat restraint pass seat suppresion modual 4200 miles, twice replaced inflatable restriant sensing and diagnostic module at 4900 miles and 6200 miles, instrument panel compartment ... Read More
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Get the STS
Written by: mourerj on Sep 25, 2009 12:22:46 AM
I've had my 2007 STS for nearly 3 years without a single problem. Statistical data suggests the person using the term "lemon" for his STS did indeed get a very rare bad apple of the bunch. Remeber Cadillac is #1 on several customer satisfaction surveys (e.g. JD power) -- yes, even beating #2 Lexus. Ditto for quality and repair frequency. Audi, BMW & MB have far more incidents per 1,000 cars ... Read More
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Re: Can anyone tell me [m4d_cow]
Written by: locdoc on Jul 26, 2008 6:07:39 PM
Yes, the STS is a lemon, and GM is just not set up to sell luxury cars. Their dealerships remind me of fast food restaurants in terms of decor. Cadillacs are expensive, way too expensive considering the competition. I can tell you that I just traded my 13 month old 2007 STS V-8 with RWD for a 2008 BMW 335i sedan, and the difference in drivability, quality, features, etc is staggering. ... Read More
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [fintail]
Written by: pmc4 on Mar 10, 2008 3:13:38 PM
What's an interesting observation is that the STS was never meant to compete with the 7-Series/S-Class, yet auto journalists still make the comparison. The CTS was never meant to compete with premium sedans like the 5-Series or Infiniti M45, but auto jpurnalists are still comparing the two. In fact, Car and Driver recently compared the 2008 CTS to the 2008 Infiniti M45, a car in a higher class. Regardless of price, ... Read More
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Re: Meanwhile, back in 2008... [claires]
Written by: bumpy on Mar 1, 2008 10:13:55 PM
Short answer: no. GM has decided that the CTS should be a 300C with a better interior; the SRX, STS, and DTS are slated to die at the end of the decade, and the replacement for the latter two will be a rebodied Holden sedan; the Escalade will continue to to be a gadgetologized Tahoe (to borrow a Rockyism); and the XLR will continue to be an overpriced angular body on ... Read More
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Re: OK - [sls002]
Written by: xhe518 on Feb 28, 2008 8:43:29 AM
I guess you could say a 2002 STS is 'much' larger than a 2008 STS, but by the same token then, a 2008 DTS is 'much' larger than the 2002 STS... Here's an interesting point - I'm sure you've heard the rumors (or maybe it's even fact) that Cadillac will merge the DTS and STS into one car in a few years....I wonder the new one will be closer to the ... Read More
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Written by: xhe518 on Feb 28, 2008 7:58:39 AM
I went back and checked.... The older Seville STS is almost exactly in between a DTS and STS in size 2008 STS - 196 inches long, 116 wheelbase, 3973lbs 2002 Seville - 201 inches long, 112 wheelbase, 3992lbs 2008 DTS - 207 inches long, 115.6 wheelbase, 4009lbs http://www.edmunds.com/used/2002/cadillac/seville/19037/specs.html http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/cadillac/sts/100886907/specs.html http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/cadillac/dts/100888385/specs.html
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Re: The Only Luxury Car... [lemko]
Written by: circlew on Feb 27, 2008 11:00:21 AM
Her is some interesteing data from July 2007. According to the industry examiners at CNW Research, Cadillac’s fortunes appear to be slipping away at the margins. In the firm’s July installment of their Retail Automotive Summary, their Aspirational Index (which judges a brand’s attractiveness to consumers) reveals that Cadillac’s rising star is beginning to falter. In the mid-Nineties, the marque rated only a 4 on a 10 point scale. With the ... Read More
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Re: 2008 CTS-V [sevenfeet0]
Written by: mr215 on Jan 9, 2008 8:31:48 AM
I'm all for your enthusiasm but it should be noted the current CTS is on the same platform as the old one. I'm not sure about your theory that the first gen car wasnt meant to have a V series. I would say Cadillac planned to do it from the start and they did a good job for a first effort. The CTS-V had a few flaws but for $50k it ... Read More
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2008 CTS-V
Written by: sevenfeet0 on Jan 9, 2008 8:03:50 AM
I've been reading some of the initial reports of this car since it broke cover. All I have to say is: "Whoa!" The old CTS-V was pretty much an afterthought. The original CTS was first penned in 1999 and by the time it shipped to dealers in January '03, it was considered Cadillac's last chance to be relavent, not the start of various cars based on this one. So when a ... Read More
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [louiswei]
Written by: 62vetteefp on Jan 7, 2008 11:24:09 AM
But according to the JP Power data we can see that even with the new 2008 CTS, Caddy is not attracting many owners under the age of 40. Very true but if we look at Mercedes their average age is 59, 6 years older than Cadillac (53). Heck Rolls is a dead old age of 63 :P . Lexus is just under Cadillac with 49. Even BMW with their very youthful/sporty/performance ... Read More
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Re: can't read graphs [mr215]
Written by: louiswei on Jan 7, 2008 10:02:07 AM
You need to read the original post again, the average buyer age data is from 2005 (the most recent that I can found) but the IS and CTS owner age breakdowns are for 2008 model. Just in Case you missed it I'll post again. JD Power Model Age Profile (all 2008 models except the Lexus LS which is 2007): Cadillac CTS: Ages 16-35 - 12% Ages 36-55 - 34% Ages 56+ ... Read More
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [habitat1]
Written by: mr215 on Jan 7, 2008 8:53:50 AM
"All of these vehicles offer absolutely nothing over a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord in terms of utility. They are purchased because the buyer has certain "desires", not because the Accord or Camry don't satisy their basic "need" for reliable transportation. Rare is the company that can succeed by telling the customer that "you don't need 'X', so take 'Y' and be happy with it". You are angry and confrontational for ... Read More
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Re: can't read graphs [louiswei]
Written by: mr215 on Jan 7, 2008 6:01:19 AM
what do numbers from 2005 have to do with the 2008 CTS which has been on sale since August? If you read some of the consumer reviews on Edmunds you will see that many of the people who have commented cross-shopped and/or owned import luxury brands. Not sure what that says about their age but I suspect its a sign that they are younger than typical Caddy buyers. The other thing ... Read More
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Re: Road & Track comparison [trimaster]
Written by: mrsyj on Dec 26, 2007 5:21:33 AM
"I never said they wouldn't. You asked me for reasons why some wouldn't buy the CTS and get the C instead and I gave you some. What's the problem? " I believe someone else asked for those reasons. I wouldnt but the C class so I don't need any reasons why its supposedly superior. The C class isnt superior on any objective level. Not that its not a nice car. "The ... Read More
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Re: Road & Track comparison [mrsyj]
Written by: trimaster on Dec 25, 2007 9:12:30 PM
Since its been on sale the 2008 CTS has outsold the C class, TL, IS, A4 and G35. I would say the car s doing just fine and will continue to do so....Read some of the consumer reviews right here on this site, many owners have traded in European cars. Would you be so kind to post a link to back this up? I did a little research and this is ... Read More
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Why I buy Cadillac over Benz
Written by: lemko on Dec 22, 2007 1:25:51 PM
I WILL any Cadillac over a Mercedes-Benz many reasons: 1. It's a Cadillac. I have always been excited or impressed by a Caddy. Mercedes has had many BAD years over the last 15. I don't think there's been a truly great Mercedes since the very excellent W126 S-Class. If any of my Cadillacs given me the grief that my brother-in-law's S430 has given him, I'd have defected to Lexus by now. ... Read More
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American \ Expensive Re: Road & Track comparison [sls002]
Written by: rayainsw on Nov 12, 2007 10:30:51 AM
Cadillac will do best to market cars that are not direct competition with BMW or Mercedes. If Cadillac can build something different, but American, then it should sell. Cadillac will not be able to sell something very expensive. The XLR does not sell like the Mercedes SL's. = = = While I agree with statements 1 & 2, I disagree with #3. If Caddy does build something unique & American, I ... Read More
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Re: Cadillac has to beat the German brands... [62vetteefp]
Written by: jimbres on May 7, 2007 5:28:17 AM
My apologies. I should have been more precise. I was looking specifically at mid-lux sedans: the Caddy STS, Mercedes E-Class, BMW 5-series, Lexus GS, Infiniti M & Acura RL. This is the sweet spot of the luxury sedan market. In April '07, the E-Class Benz, which is the sales leader in this segment, moved more cars than Lexus & Infiniti combined. Together, the E-Class & 5-series accounted for more units than ... Read More
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Re: GMs pathetic interiors... [mediapusher]
Written by: lemko on Apr 20, 2007 9:21:04 AM
I don't think the CTS has a bad interior, it just doesn't look like a Cadillac interior - a little too spartan. It would make an excellent Pontiac interior. The materials used, however, are pretty decent and the fit and finish isn't bad either. I had the pleasure of driving a new black CTS for a weekend back in 2005. It was a lot of fun and very economical too! With ... Read More
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Re: Why doesn't GM just start building most of their cars in China? [lemko]
Written by: rockylee on Apr 6, 2007 8:27:01 PM
So that's where the pet food is coming from lemko ? Wasn't it sold at Walley World stores ? Back to Cadillac, I have a question to ask lemko. Do you like the changes made to the 2008' STS ? Rocky
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Quality Still Not Up to Par
Written by: mediapusher on Apr 4, 2007 8:02:09 PM
I was going to rent a Cadillac STS last weekend for a drive to San Diego but there were none available. So I rented a Chevrolet Impala with 6,000 miles on it. There have been complaints that my posts on this discussion group board regarding the quality of GM's products are delusional because gee, GM has changed for the better--- NOT. LOL! After driving that piece of junk they call the ... Read More
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Re: no joy... ( 2008 STS ) [rayainsw]
Written by: sls002 on Apr 3, 2007 2:59:05 PM
I think Cadillac considers the STS their top of the line model, and they are trying to price the performance version as high as possible. The problem is that the STS is not quite worth the price with the interior as it is. Even if they repackaged stuff the way you would like, the price tag would probably be higher for the base car, and the performance stuff would be higher ... Read More
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2008
Written by: exalteddragon1 on Feb 20, 2007 1:29:56 PM
If the next STS, whatever and whenever they decide to release it, will have the same leap from the curent model as the 2008 CTS has over its own, then Cadillac has the chance to wipe the floor with its competition. Here is what I think that means: A more elaborate, softer and cooler looking interrior with metallic and wood materials, leather in the doors, and cool ambient lighting, possibly driver ... Read More
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Re: 2008 STS Changes? [rockylee]
Written by: pri on Feb 11, 2007 11:33:50 AM
OK, but we need to be talking about the non-UAW buyers' market. (Note: upper middle class is now in the six figure category.) Two points to remember: 1. UAW plant line workers get paid way more than the average blue collar worker who is not in the automobile industry for the same amount/type of work so they have a distorted view of the non-UAW plant work force pay scale. This is ... Read More
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Re: 2008 STS Changes? [pri]
Written by: rockylee on Feb 11, 2007 8:20:40 AM
I guess you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying a DTS per se but the old FWD DTS need to be put out to pasture and like the Europeans and Japanese the bigger car in the premium brands is usaully more expensive. When I was talking about middle class I guess I forgot to mention the word "upper". Does it really matter as people will site different money figures to break down ... Read More
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Re: 2008 STS Changes? [rockylee]
Written by: pri on Feb 11, 2007 7:48:27 AM
You have just proposed reversing generations of Cadillac tradition: the DTS (DeVille) being more expensive than the STS (Seville); the target market changing from blue collar buyers to upper middle class; cars that are almost as good as the best (at fire sale pricing) to cars that are the equal of the S-Class and 7-series. That, my friend, is flip-flopping on a world scale that even John Kerry would be proud ... Read More
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Re: 2008 STS Changes? [markcincinnati]
Written by: rockylee on Feb 11, 2007 12:07:59 AM
Well I agree with you for once. When I was referring to the STS, being Lexus like I should of stated that I wanted the interior quality and most of the gadgetology. I want buick to ride and be more like a Lexus without the price tag and agree Cadillac, needs to be more European. ;) I hope that clears things up. My mistake. ;) I still think the Cadillac STS ... Read More
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Re: 2008 STS Changes? [rockylee]
Written by: markcincinnati on Feb 10, 2007 3:15:11 PM
I may be wrong, but Cadillac can't possibly want to emulate a Lexus -- the new ones are not driving machines, they are sofa's on wheels. The current CST and STS and the ones in the pipeline are being honed on the German test tracks. Cadillac seems, to me, to be persuing those who like much of the European car driving experince with some decidedly American style. To me, Lexus has ... Read More
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Re: 2008 STS Changes? [pri]
Written by: rockylee on Feb 9, 2007 8:20:27 PM
I think you can have the best or damn near it with a under $60K price tag. The Lexus LS sells good because it had the Toyota Emblem called Lexus and the years of brainwashing have finally rooted in to american society. The Volvo S80 for example is 80% of the car the LS is and is $20K cheaper. It would give about as much driving pleasure the LS would for ... Read More
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Re: 2008 STS Changes? [rockylee]
Written by: pri on Feb 9, 2007 7:42:49 PM
What? Since when is a Cadillac a "blue collar worker's car"? It should be the boss's car. It is supposed to be the "Standard of the World" and not a Chevy or Pontiac! Your view has been GM's problem with this car: GM went after the mass market while Lexus went up-market and has a several month waiting list for 2007 LS's. Right now, it is not exclusive enough and the ... Read More
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2008 STS Changes?
Written by: pearl on Feb 5, 2007 11:39:33 AM
The STS seems to have hit a wall, both in sales and in discussions. What should Cadillac do to the 08 STS to revive interest?
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Written by: sls002 on Jan 12, 2007 11:08:53 AM
Cadillac probably should not have gone FWD in the 80's. Then they spent the 90's trying to convince the magazines that FWD was as good as RWD. On the other hand, then the RWD Fleetwood would probably have continued on as is (as it was to 1996). The advantage now, is that the RWD's are clean sheet designs, so we have the CTS, STS, and SRX sigma platform models. The basic ... Read More
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Re: TECHNOLOGY AND HAND-CRAFTSMANSHIP DRIVE THE 2008 CADILLAC CTS [bumpy]
Written by: louiswei on Jan 8, 2007 10:10:51 AM
3872??? Mein Gott! I really see this new CTS to be a 5-series/E-class/GS/M fighter than a compact luxury performance sedan. Maybe this is the direction that GM's going, make CTS be their midsize, STS fullsize and bring the BLS over as their entry level sedan.
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Re: With style like this? Absolutely yes!!! [rockylee]
Written by: readerreader on Dec 23, 2006 11:28:56 AM
That's not the interior of the 2008 CTS. That's the interior of the Cadillac SLS, which may make itself over here as the 2008 STS. The 2008 CTS interior looks something like this: That's a test mule. I have been hearing all over that in real life, it is out of this world! So keep your hopes up!
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Re: Cadillac does have some star power [fintail]
Written by: chevy598 on Dec 16, 2006 7:51:01 PM
I agree, Cadillac needs better cars. We'll see in January where Cadillac is going when the 2008 cts unveils at the Detroit auto show. For a first attempt at getting back in the luxury game the STS wasn't a bad ride it just needs to evolve. The DTS is so misunderstood its crazy. GM couldn't have built a better boat for the segment their after with the DTS. If your into ... Read More
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Re: Lemko..... [nvbanker]
Written by: rockylee on Nov 27, 2006 11:55:42 PM
I was defending the Lincoln MKZ and MKS against the competition. The Navigator OTOH, is a nice SUV, like I said but it lacks elegance, refinement and isn't as good as the Escalade or GL 450. The "Old and Tired" gas guzzling 5.4 V-8 was a embarrassment engine for ford to use. It has 300 hp. but feels more like 200 hp. The Navigator, does have a few features not found ... Read More
