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Re: 2005 X5 4.4 with 40000miles [mroctober]
Written by: bmlexus on Mar 8, 2009 4:00:23 AM
I don't mean to interrupt here,but isn't a brand new Lexus RX for the same price a better but than a old 05 or 06 bmw X5? It's your money if you wanted a new x5, then it would've been a different story,but an old unreliable bmw rather than a brand new lexus, your choice.
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Re: 2005 X5 4.4 with 40000miles [jpzy3]
Written by: bmlexus on Mar 10, 2009 3:26:20 AM
I do understand bmws handling. I've driven bmws best suv, which is the bmw X6, and I know how well it handles,but when your best friend works at a bmw dealer,and advises you not to buy it, that does put a doubt in your mind, doesn't it? Well, the RX2009 has big discounts, up to $9k from what I've heard, around $32k for a new 2009 rx.
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Re: 2005 X5 4.4 with 40000miles [bmlexus]
Written by: jpzy3 on Mar 9, 2009 5:19:33 PM
yes - that is my dilemma. you would understand if you cared for bmw-handling. only a big discount like $11k under list for a brand new lexus rx could sway me and i tried to get that price and forego the X5, but couldn't. so back to square 1 looking for a used X5. the X5 is on the top of my list, but i just refuse to spend upwards of ... Read More
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers Thank You! [rezf] [nj_bmw_byer] [rezf] [nj_bmw_bye
Written by: rezf on Mar 30, 2008 7:44:52 PM
manydom That was my type mistake re money factor. For march it is 0.0021 not 0.0025. The rate for Feb was 0.0025 . Residuals do not typically change from BMWFS (they are already inflated to make leases more attractive). The factors that likely change from month to month are the money factor and any incentives/cashbacks towards a new vehicle. Note, this is model specific and only given if they want to ... Read More
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers Thank You! [rezf] [nj_bmw_byer] [rezf] [nj_bmw_bye [rezf]
Written by: mannydom on Mar 30, 2008 7:24:59 PM
rezf...Thank you from me too. I've been following this thread closely for fear that I 'd be taken to the cleaners, too. Msg# 682 assured me that my thinking process in leasing is going the right way...i.e. negotiate first as close as you can from invoice price and once price has been agreed on only then talk about leasing issues. Again regarding Msg# 682, what is included in upfront fees? Also ... Read More
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers Thank You! [rezf] [nj_bmw_byer] [rezf] [nj_bmw_bye [rezf]
Written by: nj_bmw_byer on Mar 30, 2008 8:28:23 AM
Thank you again. I am finding that is an easy and practical why to assess the price of a lease. Now the problem is getting a salesperson to agree with you. Also could you give me the residual percentage on the 2008 X5 3.01. I might go with the 722.00 per month including taxes. That is closer to what you said a fair price would be. Also I was going to ... Read More
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers Thank You! [rezf] [nj_bmw_byer] [rezf] [nj_bmw_bye
Written by: rezf on Mar 30, 2008 6:59:45 AM
At $1000 above invoice, the lease payments on the 2008 X5 you are considering would be $693 per month before taxes. I say $1000 per month, because that is a deal that can be had any day of the month at the dealership I purchased my X5 from. The market is just too soft for some dealers to justify not discounting that much
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers Thank You! [rezf] [nj_bmw_byer] [rezf] [nj_bmw_bye
Written by: rezf on Mar 29, 2008 6:55:26 PM
nj_bmw What I was/am saying is the best way to figure out the best deal is look at the MSRP of the car. Find the invoice price on Edmunds.com, then add $1000-$1500 to the price of the invoice. This should be your Cap Cost. Do not put any money down...only pay the upfront fees...And insist that they use a Money Factor of 0.0025 to calculate the lease. Whatever that monthly payment ... Read More
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers Thank You! [rezf] [nj_bmw_byer] [rezf]
Written by: nj_bmw_byer on Mar 29, 2008 6:09:37 PM
Thank you. I re calculated the numbers my self on my financial calculator and they came out correctly - just as you said. A change in the money factor can make all the difference. if you (ACC - Residual val)/36 the payments for a 50ish vehicle averages about 550.00. Once you add the money factor that price can easily boost to over 700+. I did this with several vehicles: BMW, Porsche ... Read More
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers requested[rezf] [nj_bmw_byer]
Written by: rezf on Mar 29, 2008 3:26:40 PM
nj_bmw_buyer Have a look at this link http://forums.roadfly.com/forums/financing/6451130-1.html This is an archived list of BMWFS lease rates for April 2005. As you can see, the money factor for the X5 back then was 0.00125. In today's market, the buy rate money factor for the X5 is 0.0025. This reflects what I had previously said in a thread that manufacturers subside the interest and residuals to sweeten a lease deal to keep ... Read More
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Re: 2005/2008 X5 numbers requested[rezf]
Written by: nj_bmw_byer on Mar 29, 2008 5:13:40 AM
Thank you for any quick response you might give to these numbers. There was a typo concerning the moneyfactor in the 2005/2008 BMW X5's. It is 0021 on 0029. the 0029 was the money factor on the Cayenne that I am also negotiation. 2005 Sticker Pr. GCC 51,370.00 sale pr.ACC 50,035.10 agrd val vehicle 48957.75 inceptions 630.00 1st mo. 250.00 title, reg 625.00 Aquistion fee 105.50 NJ tire&REC/Doc Fee total incept: ... Read More
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Re: $630 vs. $799 [rezf]
Written by: nj_bmw_byer on Mar 28, 2008 2:06:54 PM
rezf, I am starting not to trust this entire process, including information obtained here. This is not my first lease, not even my first X5 lease. This will be my 3rd. When the X5 was first introduced it was a hot selling car as well. Everywhere I went salespeople where say 800.00+ for an X5 3.0 series with 12/36 lease package. After rigorous negotiation I got the same car for 650.00 ... Read More
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$630 vs. $799
Written by: rezf on Mar 28, 2008 7:11:17 AM
leases do NOT work the way yo think they do. You are not merely spending money on the same piece of automobile. The 2005 X5 was 5 years into its development and sales had started to slow down. what manufacturers do in these situation is to increase the residual rate in the lease (one of the major determinants of your lease payments) This way the payments drop and they hope to ... Read More
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BMW X5 Lease Dilemma
Written by: nj_bmw_byer on Mar 28, 2008 5:09:47 AM
I lease a BMW X5 in 2005. My lease ends in May 2008. It was for a 36/12, no money down lease, at 630.00 per month including taxes. The prices I am getting for the same lease for the exact same car at the same dealership and salesperson is now 799.00 The sales price of the 2005 X5 vehicle was 50035.10. Using the Edmunds lease calculators, I cannot get my lease ... Read More
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2006 X5 Lease Money Factor
Written by: need on Oct 3, 2005 2:43:12 PM
Today I was quoted 0.0015 money factor for 2006 X5 lease as a new BMW customer. I was looking for a 3.0i with options about $49920 MSRP, dealer offers 47110. 2500 down, 500 security deposit, 36 months, 12000/yr (60% residual), payment ends up around $577 + tax around $624. It was a little higher than what I wanted. I think I would have gotten a better deal last month with the ... Read More
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Re: Re: X5 lease on BMWUSA
Written by: Car_man on Sep 26, 2005 3:04:38 AM
Hello maximus330i. The lease money factor that you are being charged on this truck is too high. BMW Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor for a lease of a 2005 BMW X5 is currently only .00250. Even if you were to have your truck's security deposit waived, it would only increase the factor to .00265. It appears as though the dealer that you are working with is marking-up BMW FS' ... Read More
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Re: X5 lease on BMWUSA [drtravel]
Written by: maximus330i on Sep 21, 2005 10:57:12 PM
I need some help desperately. Thanks in advance for reading this. Here is my situation. I am going to buy a 2005 X5 3.0 and received 7k off the msrp. Here are the figures: Length of lease=36 months Miles=12k/year Cost of car: $46,500 (Premium, Sport, Cold Weather, Privacy, Auto, Nav, Xenons) Money factor (.0029) Total out of pocket ($1,187.64+$800(deposit)=$1,987.64) Residual=54% Residual value is $29,971 Monthly payment=$757.41 Purchase scenario: Cost of car ... Read More
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Re: Re: X5 '0 5lease #'s
Written by: Car_man on Sep 20, 2005 3:07:13 AM
Hi Jay. I would be happy to calculate a lease payment on the truck that you are interested in for you. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2005 BMW X5 3.0 with an MSRP of $50,920 and a selling price of $44,920 through BMW Financial Services right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment should be around $808. BMW ... Read More
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Re: Re: Sept. lease numbers?
Written by: Car_man on Sep 20, 2005 3:00:46 AM
Hi Larry. You did a good job in finding out about the dealer cash that is currently available on this truck and making sure that it was taken into account on your deal. I don't know the exact dealer invoice price for the truck that you are considering, but if I had to make an educated guess I would say that you are probably paying around $1,000 over invoice after the ... Read More
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Re: Re: Realistic Lease price
Written by: Car_man on Sep 20, 2005 2:51:39 AM
Hello thetaxman. You would be much better off going with a 2005 BMW X5 than a 2006 model at this point. BMW is providing absolutely no support on '06 models, but it has $5,000 dealer cash and a better money factor on '05 models right now. If you decide that you still want to go with the 2006 model, make sure that your dealer uses a .00180 money factor to calculate ... Read More
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Re: Realistic Lease price
Written by: Car_man on Sep 12, 2005 4:34:28 AM
Hi Jay. We are already at the end of the 2005 model year. You will have to wait until at least October for the 2006 X5 to be as cheap to lease as the 2005 model currently is. Of course, it is difficult to tell what manufacturers will do with their future incentives with 100% accuracy. You should be able to get a good idea of what BMW's current lease program ... Read More
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Re: Short term lease, X5
Written by: Car_man on Sep 12, 2005 4:30:42 AM
Here's the information that you are looking for, peachtree103. If you were to lease a 2005 BMW X5 3.0 or 4.4 (their lease programs are the same) through BMW Financial Services right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00250 and 59%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 30 month lease should be .00250 and 55%. Yes, ... Read More
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Re: Sept. lease numbers?
Written by: Car_man on Sep 12, 2005 4:28:01 AM
Hi tpjcourtney. When BMW introduced the dealer cash that is is now providing on the 2005 X5 it cut way back on its lease money factor support. Its September buy rate lease money factor for a 36 month lease of any '05 X5 model through BMW FS should be .00250. Make sure to take the $5,000 dealer cash that BMW is providing on the '05 X5 3.0i and $6,500 that it ... Read More
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Re: Fair price for a 2005 X5 4.4i [ca_man]
Written by: x5guyinla on Jul 10, 2005 2:22:48 AM
I just purchased an 2005 X5 4.4i for $64,250 out the door.......MSRP on it was $62,695. It has sport, premium, rear climate, & cold weather packages with nav & 19" rims. The invoice I saw on the dealer computer showed $57,810, and I got it for $58,890 before tax and reg. I think I got a decent deal...probably could have gotten a better deal if I didn't know the guy and ... Read More
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BMW X5 2005 Lease Question
Written by: abiseid on Jul 5, 2005 9:23:53 AM
Hello, I am considering the BMW X5 2005 for lease and have seen it advertised for $459/mo. with like $3800 total inception fees. I have also seen many other manufacturers offer Zero Down on many cars (like Jeep) for very low prices (i.e jeep wrangler - 188/mo., jeep grand cherokee - 259/mo.). My question is this....if these jeep and other manufacturers can offer zero down (sign and drive) and keep the ... Read More
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carolina deals ?
Written by: nsharma on Jul 1, 2005 6:34:54 PM
I have just started my search for a 2005 X5 3.0. I live in city with one BMW dealer, hence negotiating is tough. Can anyone recommend a dealer known for dealing in the SE region of the US? I'm actually within 100 miles of the factory where these things are made, so it seems like I should be able to find a deal.
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X5 2005 3.0 CALIFORNIA
Written by: hberbout123 on Jun 12, 2005 12:51:18 AM
HI prem,sport,navigation,cold,xenon,self dimm,auto the dealer asking 0.0015 MF NOT 0.00125 he said thats the rate in california and also he mentioned the acq 800 and its fixed by BMW i read in this forum its about 625 is he making extra profit here? MSRP 53870 I Ofered 51000 679/month incluide tax 10k/36 he didnt agree!!! ahould i offer more or find some one else any help appreciated
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Re: 2005 BMW X5 - No CD player [mynextcar]
Written by: x5x5x5 on Apr 17, 2005 7:30:04 PM
Hello, I would like to buy a CD changer from eBay and install it in my 2001 BMW X 5. What model number should I look for? How hard is it to install? What about upgrading the navigation system from a CD to a DVD? Thank you, Jim
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Re: BMW X5 2001 Front Differential Failure (njbmwx5) [kobayashi]
Written by: njbmwx5 on Apr 17, 2005 12:25:34 PM
On Friday, April 15, 2005, I received a report from the BMW dealership in reference to my wife's vehicle. I was told it was the front differential. A few hours later I was called by the BMW dealership who stated that the warranty company will not pay for damages caused by the driveshaft. I called the dealership back and explained to the service department that they told me it was a ... Read More
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Re: BMW X5 2001 Front Differential Failure [summitgeek]
Written by: njbmwx5 on Apr 14, 2005 2:59:30 PM
My wife purchased a 2001 BMW X5 3.0 in June of 2004 with approximately 44,000 miles still under manufacture's warranty. The vehicle was checked by BMW of Turnersville (New Jersey) for its routine check-up at approximately 49,000 miles. On Monday, April 11, 2005, approximately 5:00pm as she was pulling into the school to pick-up my daughter, the vehicle, as my wife describes, started to slow down and buck back and forth ... Read More
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: BMW 3.0 sav X5 leasing updated info
Written by: nj_bmw_byer on Mar 14, 2005 5:02:37 PM
I just got a quote for an 2005 X5 3.0 BMW. I am not sure of the Adj cap cost. But do these numbers sound ok: Zero Money down The edmunds MSRP is 51,370 6 dick cd changer is 595 total-------------->51,965 36 months/12k miles per year Auto, Prem. Pk, CW pk, RC pk, Nav Sys, Xenons, Heated Rear seats, 6 Cd changer Sterling Gray inceptions: 631 1st pay 625 bank fee ... Read More
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BMW 3.0 sav X5 leasing
Written by: nj_bmw_byer on Mar 14, 2005 10:21:44 AM
I just got a quote for an 2005 X5 3.0 BMW. I am not sure of the Adj cap cost. But do these numbers sound ok: 36 months/12k miles per year Auto, Prem. Pk, CW pk, RC pk, Nav Sys, Xenons, Heated Rear seats, 6 Cd changer Sterling Gray inceptions: 631 1st pay 625 bank fee 253 MV 125 Doc fee 7 Tire tax 631.00 per month including NJ taxes, Also ... Read More
