2007 BMW 7 Series Consumer Discussions

Your opinion-2008 CPO 535i (30K) VS. 2007 750iL (60K)

• Your opinion-2008 CPO 535i (30K) VS. 2007 750iL (60K)

  Written by: bharalson on Aug 19, 2010 10:03:21 AM

  Hi all- Long time lurker, new poster. My lease on my 328i is up in three months, and I've started the search for my next car. I am 99% sure that I'm going to stay with BMW. I have narrowed it down to two cars. • 2008 Certified Pre-Owned 535i 30K Miles Loaded with Sport, Premium, Comfort Access, Cold Weather, etc. $37,900 (haven't started negotiating yet, but I am sure they ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: Lease Buy Out - to do or not to do [adefina]

  Written by: gryan on Nov 15, 2009 7:01:20 AM

  I just leased the 2009 Li and I love it. BMW gave $6000 in rebate to be uused as cap reduction. The dealers are selling them at cost. I used Multiple securites to get money factor down but it is already low at .00090, this is equal to 2.25% Unless you plan on keeping the 2007 for more than a few more years I would say lease a new one. I ... Read More

• Lease Buy Out - to do or not to do

  Written by: adefina on Nov 15, 2009 4:07:13 AM

  I am trying to decide whether to do a lease buy out on a 2007 750li, or lease a 2009. It is in excellent and almost pristeen condition and has 27,000 miles on it. the residual is $52,014. No repairs have been needed, just regular oil changes. This car has options that I like, and significantly, the back seat seems to have more room than the 2009. Without seeing the car ... Read More

BMW 7-Series 2007+

• Thinking about a 2007 750i- Please Help

  Written by: larrys8 on Mar 19, 2010 5:51:24 AM

  Hi all, I am considering purchasing a 2007 certified 750i. BMW is offering to cover all maint and warranty to 100k miles. I drove a 2007 750 with sport package, fairly loaded, I think I can get it for around 40K. An amazing car (at least during test drive). I am considering this vs. buying new Acura TL or looking for pre-owned Lexus LS(I know apples to oranges). I love the ... Read More

• BMW extended warranty

  Written by: mkalagian on Dec 7, 2009 12:15:20 PM

  I have a 2007 750LI with approx 39K miles. I was quoted by the finance department at the local BMW dealer that the extended bumper to bumper warranty, including regular service (an addtional 2 years of 100K miles) was $4200.00. Is this the going price? Will th dealership negotiate this price? Thanks for any assistance. Marc

• Re: 2007 750Li Individual [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: wabends on Oct 29, 2009 11:09:01 AM

  Car was delivered from dealership yesterday to our home yesterday. Looks great, especially the Jet Black exterior over Platinum interior with piano black trim and rear entertainment package, night vision etc. Think it has every available option except for seat massage. The "BMW Individual" door sill is especially exclusive and I also got the CPO with extended maintenance because replacing a brake pad and/or the 20" performance tires will cost more ... Read More

• Bmw (broken motor works)

  Written by: nutsaboutcars on Oct 13, 2009 7:00:40 AM

  I leased a 2007 bmw 7 series in aug of 07 and thank god it goes back next aug,,This car has been a nightmare,,Instead of building cars that you can surf the internet in,,Bmw needs to build cars with quality and reliability like for instance electronics that actually work and continue to work and the mecanics of the car with out problems,,,My 7 series is babied and always gets high quality ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• BMW 750 Lease

  Written by: mark1234 on Sep 15, 2009 4:58:28 PM

  I just wanted to give everyone an update on my experience in Virginia. I have a 2007 BMW 530xi coming off lease in the next month or so. Although I was happy with my car, I was looking to upgrade. I was really just looking to get another one but there was a 2009 750 loaded and on the lot. The dealership was ready to deal. It was fully loaded for ... Read More

• 7 SERIES 2010

  Written by: maxandmatt2 on Sep 11, 2009 9:13:14 AM

  I am currently leasing a 2007 750 LI with only 12,000 miles on it, the lease expires mid October. I have dealt with my current dealership in NJ since the early 90's, leasing every 3 years. I have been 100% happy with all my 7 series BMW's, as well as the dealership/salesman. When inquiring regarding the exact same features in the 2010 BMW 750 LI with AWD, I have been told ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: Help me analyze the options here [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: pfreak76 on Jul 19, 2009 1:14:01 PM

  ">Yea - you asked the right question. Now what the guy offered to be was $2999 for a 2 year maintaince plan post the 50K maintainence expiration. That covers me through 2013. Now I hear that the brakes, rotors, oil change and windshield wipers cost a fortune for the 750. They should easily exceed 2999 if they break - which I am guessing they will. So its a no brainer. But ... Read More

• Re: Help me analyze the options here [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: pfreak76 on Jul 8, 2009 9:11:19 PM

  Hi - I have asked for the breakup of the maintainence plan - its called "BMW Ultimate or Elite". Now I do have this maintainence plan until mid-2011 since the original warranty does not expire until then (this is a 2007 750Li). The pre-owned warranty kicks in after 2011 but the maintainence plan expires mid-2011 and will need to be bought for the period 2011 to 2013 (2013 is when the ... Read More

• Re: Help me analyze the options here [pfreak76]

  Written by: Mr_Shiftright on Jul 2, 2009 7:08:35 AM

  I hate to blanket a car with a bad reputation, because things change year to year. What I can say with assurance is that earlier 750s have been problem-ridden and sometimes make it to the "worst used cars" lists. Part of this came from the V-12 engine, which now of course is a 760 option, not a 750 option. How much of all the earlier issues BMW has squared away by ... Read More

• Re: Help me analyze the options here [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: pfreak76 on Jul 2, 2009 12:22:35 AM

  Okay - I am going to checkout the 2007 I mentioned above. Thanks for all the tips so far. BTW - is the 750Li really as bad as some people refer to? I see sharply contrasting responses from people. It seems like some peope have had no issues, while others see frequent transmission/engine problems. I wonder why this car would have so many more issues compared to a high end 5-series ... Read More

• Re: Help me analyze the options here [pfreak76]

  Written by: pfreak76 on Jun 25, 2009 10:11:47 AM

  The cars as they are listed: The 2006: (Negotiated down to 43.5 @ 3.9% APR) http://www.bmwnorthscottsdale.com/detail-2006-bmw-7_series-750li-4195607.html The 2007: (Not negotiated yet - but listed at 44.9K @ maybe a 6.5% APR) http://www.sterlingbmw.com/certified-inventory/vehicle-details.htm?vehicleId=1a8- 8bae04046381e0059c8b52f6d8b92&useHistory=true

• Help me analyze the options here

  Written by: pfreak76 on Jun 24, 2009 10:25:55 PM

  Guys - I am looking at a 2006 750Li CPO with 26K miles. The CPO expires 2yrs after the OEM warranty by EO 2011. Now there is another car dealer out in CA (the one with 26K miles is instate) selling a 2007 750Li with about 30K miles. Price delte is about $1.4K (2007 more than 2006 ofcourse). Featurewise they seem to be fairly similar. But 2006 has a financing incentive ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [ukwildcats]

  Written by: bmwduder on Apr 22, 2009 5:01:18 PM

  I have a 2007 750LI Sport, Loaded with 20k miles on it It also has 20 Inch Factory M Wheels Payment is $1700 per month and the lease is up in June 2010 Car is perfect I will pay you to get into my car. I can make my deal much more attractive than what you are looking at now. I am looking to get the new 750 and I don't ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [Car_man]

  Written by: ukwildcats on Apr 22, 2009 3:14:25 AM

  Would appreciate input: Looking to lease (for tax purposes) a 2007 Li with 28,600 miles on it. Sale price of $47,400, 3 year 15K per, $2563 due at signing, $1063 per month. Buy rate factor used is .00350 and he gave me a residual value of $19,732 at end of lease. FWIW it has every option available. Thanks.

BMW 7-Series 2007+

• Re: 2007 BMW 750i [blsts]

  Written by: Mr_Shiftright on Aug 30, 2008 4:46:51 PM

  Edmunds True Market Value pricing thinks it's worth $59,000 private party, $61K dealer and $65K certified CPO car. So looks like you have room here to negotiate. I'd certainly opt for the extended warranty if you plan to keep the car for any length of time.

• 2007 BMW 750i

  Written by: blsts on Aug 30, 2008 3:36:37 PM

  Have "opportunity" to buy 2007 750i fully dressed out, has 130 mile, never registared. The problem in my mind is the car is three years old with the introduction of the 09 model. The asking price is $69k, now the question is what is it worth. Any insight would be appreciated.

BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: '03 745 Transmission bump when stopping [papsephus]

  Written by: Mr_Shiftright on Jul 24, 2008 8:00:47 AM

  Sounds like a delayed and harsh downshift into 1st gear. Maybe electronic problem? They should be at least reading the trouble codes. Here's a TSB on the subject: SI B 24 17 07 Automatic Transmission July 2007 Technical Service SUBJECT Harsh 3-2 and/or 2-1 Downshifts MODEL E65 and E66 (7 Series) 745i and 745Li with N62 and GA6HP26Z transmission Vehicles from SOP up to 03/2005 SITUATION IMPORTANT :Depending on the production ... Read More

• Knowing the problems, would you buy again?

  Written by: atb84 on Sep 8, 2007 3:06:32 PM

  Ok, now that everyone is scaring me, I have to ask: how many of you would buy again? Do the benefits outweigh the risks? I ask because I'm looking at the 2007 750iL and a VERY attractive incentive. I'm also considering the LS460. Yeah, I know they're two very different cars: performance vs. luxury. But having owned an SC400 for 14 years w/o a single problem is very compelling! The other ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: BMW 7-Series: Lease Questions [ohgobucksio]

  Written by: madmakx on Oct 3, 2007 8:52:42 PM

  750i got a quote today, $3,500 incentive still in place!!! apply $3500 to drive off...so zero drive off and $1,135 (tax etc, included - 8.25% here in CA) per month on a 36MO/10K miles per year. 2007 750i sports package, luxury seating, convenience, comfort access, premium sound......

• Re: 2007 BMW Alpina B7 Lease Questions [dxhanrahan]

  Written by: madmakx on Sep 29, 2007 6:45:44 PM

  Hi Car man, have a question regarding leasing a 2007 750i, do you think the 3500 will just go away or would they replace it with a different program? I have a lease expiring in about 7 weeks, and as designed the $3500 makes it somewhat attractive to lease now and eat the last two payments, if I wait seven weeks will probably be limited to 2008 models without incentives. Thoughts? ... Read More

• Re: BMW 7-Series: Lease Questions [Car_man]

  Written by: ohgobucksio on Sep 17, 2007 1:45:07 PM

  Hello Car_man. First of all great forum. Its my first time leasing a car and so I have questions if I may please. Info: 2007 750Li with sport pkg; lux seats; rear ent; night vision; premium sound; 19" tires; convenience pkg; comfort access; power rear shades; sirus radio. I drive a lot so I've asked for 25k miles/yr. Here is what I was quoted in central Ohio for a 3 year ... Read More

• Re: Advise for lease of 2007 BMW 750Li [dimple]

  Written by: Car_man on Aug 24, 2007 2:09:11 AM

  Hi dimple. You never mentioned the selling price of the 750Li that you are interested in leasing. This is an important number for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing the price of the car that you want to lease you don't know how good a price you ... Read More

• Advise for lease of 2007 BMW 750Li

  Written by: dimple on Jul 16, 2007 8:37:05 PM

  I'm trying to lease BMW first time and need help. I got final negotiation result for follows. Please advise whether I need to negotiate more or accept it. 1. M.S.R.P. include options ($86,690) 2. 36 month lease with 15K mile/year 3. $2350 down (first month, registration fee) 4. $1300 security deposit 5. Monthly payment: $1,203 plus tax (7.75% S.Calif.) Total $1,296/month I will appreciate your comments. Thanks,

• Re: 2007 BMW Alpina B7 Lease Questions [Car_man]

  Written by: dxhanrahan on Jun 5, 2007 5:46:33 AM

  Thanks. I ended up getting a .0035 factor after working them on it.

• Re: 2007 BMW Alpina B7 Lease Questions [dxhanrahan]

  Written by: Car_man on Jun 5, 2007 2:48:49 AM

  Hi dxhanrahan. BMW is not currently providing any lease support on the B7 Alpina. As a result, if you were to lease one through BMW Financial Services, you would have to use its standard lease program. Even so, the money factor that you were quoted sounds a little high to me. BMW FS' buy rate standard money factor varies by region, but it should be in the .003XX range, probably more ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Press Request

  Written by: KarenS on Sep 27, 2007 12:32:55 PM

  A reporter from a national newspaper is hoping to talk to consumers who have been shopping for a European vehicle (BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, Audi or others) and have found them to be more expensive because of the Euro exchange rates. Please reply to ctalati@edmunds.com no later than Monday, October 1, 2007 with your daytime contact info.

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: Need Advise / Help - Money Factor [memde]

  Written by: Car_man on Aug 24, 2007 2:11:49 AM

  You're in luck, memde. BMW recently enhanced its lease program for the 2007 7-Series. In addition to lowering its buy rate lease money factor to .00250, BMW introduced $3,500 dealer cash on leases of it. You definitely should renegotiate this deal, taking these new, enhanced incentives into account. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: maintainance package [x5fan10]

  Written by: msnln on Jul 9, 2007 7:45:48 PM

  I had same problem in 2007 when my warranty ran out on my 2002 745i, not so much for maintenance but for extended warranty. My concern was major problems like engine or transmission having problems and causing repair bills in thousands but since you probably have CPO extended warranty, you will not have to worry about that for some time. As for $2747 for maintenance package, it seems bit excessive. BMW ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• what's fair?

  Written by: bigface on Jun 20, 2007 9:37:38 PM

  I'm in the Chicago area and in the market for an 07 750 Li w/ the following: Lease terms: 36 months Mileage: 15,000 per year Registered in: Chicago, Cook County, Illinois 60608 Down Payment: $0.00 Roll In: All taxes, license and transfer fees, etc. Vehicle Specifications: Make and Model: BMW 2007 750Li Sedan Exterior Options: Sterling Gray Metallic (or titanium gray) Interior Options: Beige w/Nasca Leather (or cream beige) Trim: Dark ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• 2007 BMW Alpina B7 Lease Questions

  Written by: dxhanrahan on May 18, 2007 7:54:30 AM

  I have a deposit down on a Alpina B7. The car arrives today. I want a 3 year lease with 15k miles per year. The dealer is telling me the BMW money factor is .004 and it is because these cars are so limited. He is also telling me the residual is 49%. Does this sound right to you? Can he offer me alternate lease companies besides BMW Financial?

• Re: ? regarding lease of 2007 250Li [bmwinfo1]

  Written by: Car_man on May 3, 2007 4:19:42 AM

  Hi bmwinfo1. Where did you get the money factor that you mentioned in your post from? It is much lower than BMW Financial Services' actual factor for this car. BMW FS' May buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 BMW 750Li with 10,000 miles per year are .00275 and 61%, respectively. I would be happy to use this lease program to estimate ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: RIP 1999 to 2007? [designman]

  Written by: tagman on Mar 29, 2007 7:31:44 PM

  You are correct D-man. It was indeed Dewey who recently invited us to the Luxury Lounge. I recall checking out the forum myself, and I also recall that it was around that time that the BMW financials and BMW lease/residual stuff became the debate for many days, particularly between Dewey and brightness. That forum was burning hot for a few days. Anyway, we're all still hanging around here... and that's the ... Read More

• Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [dewey]

  Written by: brightness04 on Mar 24, 2007 4:14:18 PM

  Your knowledge of BMW biturbos is equivalent to your knowledge of BMW V6s. hmm, interesting take. BMW biturbos exist in real life, but BMW V6's are frolicking with unicorns. Well at least your knowledge of BMW biturbo engines is a bit better than your knowledge of how "realized resale values and inflated residuals are linked." I'm not the one arguing that they are linked. You are. Now please tell me how ... Read More

BMW History and Engine Technology

• Re: BMW 2.5 V6 [circlew]

  Written by: blueguydotcom on Mar 23, 2007 2:50:21 PM

  Disagree. The 2003+ performance package equipped 330is would easily stand toe to toe with a a 2006 330i/2007 328i. with 0-60 in the sub 6 second range (most reports showed 5.8-5.9 seconds) and far tighter suspension, they were anything but slouches even compared to 2007 ELLPS.

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: oac [dhamilton]

  Written by: hpowders on Mar 4, 2007 3:46:15 PM

  I have yet to drive an Audi but I have sat in a couple and I am partial to their handsome, upscale interiors. I do wish BMW would learn from them. Saw an interior photo of the 2008 550 and unfortunately, it's more of the tired "same old, same old." I knew I was in trouble when the brochure had this to say: "At first glance, differentiating the 2007 5 Series ... Read More

• Re: Lexus vs. BMW [syswei]

  Written by: dewey on Mar 2, 2007 12:59:32 PM

  Syswei, are you sure you are not mistaken? According to Reuters Lexus and BMW sales (excl. Mini) are about equal and even better BMW is growing at a far rapid pace than Lexus. here are the Feb 2007 BMW US sales figures from Reuters. Total BMW + Mini Sales = 24642 Total BMW Sales Excluding Mini = 22274 FRANKFURT, March 1 (Reuters) - German carmaker BMW's (BMWG.DE: Quote, Profile , Research) ... Read More

• Re: Lexus vs. BMW [dewey]

  Written by: hpowders on Mar 2, 2007 9:12:57 AM

  "BMW...may also become the number one luxury auto company in the USA by the end of 2007." Yes, Dewey. There will be no stopping BMW's momentum. People crave to drive the best performing vehicle in its class, whether it's the 3, 5, 7 or X5 along with those eye-catching, breathtaking Bangle designs, which seem to be copied en masse by everybody else, these days. It's about time that the USA gets ... Read More

• Lexus vs. BMW

  Written by: dewey on Mar 2, 2007 5:34:29 AM

  Feb 07 Sales US Sales Numbers BMW +15.2% at 22,274 (2/06: 19,328) Audi 37.5% at 6,609 (2/06: 4,806) Lexus 6.6% at 22,518 (2/06: 21,127) Obviously Audi sales increased mainly because of their Q7. But what is less obvious is that BMW may not only be the number one luxury auto company globally but may also become the number one luxury auto company in the USA by the end of 2007. 22,518 ... Read More

• Funny though...

  Written by: hpowders on Feb 26, 2007 1:43:48 PM

  Since that C&D review, no accident has been reported as a direct result of faulty BMW brakes for any 2006 or 2007 BMW models, as far as I know. I have had BMW's continuously since 1993 and the brakes have always stopped the vehicles quickly. I have absolute confidence in them even with that annoying little jerk at the end. This is from someone who actually drives BMW's.

• Average Sales Per Franchise

  Written by: ctsang on Feb 23, 2007 12:10:46 PM

  Total Total December January 2006 2007 Lexus 176 104 BMW 91 58 Mercedes-Benz 84 51 Audi 45 24 Jaguar 9 8 Aston Martin 1 1 Rolls-Royce 1 1

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: Advice on 2007 750i Lease [tony001]

  Written by: Car_man on Feb 23, 2007 3:38:26 AM

  Welcome tony001. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 BMW 750i with 10,000 miles per year are .00200 and 61%, respectively. For make sure to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar cars lately: "BMW 7-Series: Prices Paid & Buying Experience". Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum

• Re: Feburary lease #'s [buster6]

  Written by: Car_man on Feb 23, 2007 3:23:29 AM

  Welcome back buster6. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2007 BMW 750Li with 15,000 miles per year are .00200 and 68%, respectively. This car's 12,000 mile per year residual value would be 2% higher and its 10,000 mile per year residual value would be 3% higher than its 15k resid. Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum

• Re: Advice for Lease on 2007 BMW 750Li [mdp61]

  Written by: sadatx on Feb 14, 2007 3:10:25 PM

  I used an online lease calculator and came up with a monthly payment of $1,326.94 with the numbers you provided. I used an acquisition fee of $625 but the dealer can charge up to $825 (I think). FWIW, you can put multiple security deposits to lower the money factor. I think you can put down a max of 7 security deposits. In most cases, this shaves off abt $40 from the ... Read More

• Re: Advice for Lease on 2007 BMW 750Li [mdp61]

  Written by: vref on Feb 13, 2007 9:28:33 PM

  Another Houston Leasing company you may try is Interstate Auto Leasing. Hope this helps. Good Luck!!

• Advice for Lease on 2007 BMW 750Li

  Written by: mdp61 on Feb 13, 2007 10:16:18 AM

  I am currently negotiating with a couple different Houston Tx dealerships on a 36mo, 15000mi/yr lease. MSRP w/options on the car is $86,690, but I worked the dealer down to $84,500+TTL. They are offering a residual of 58% and a MF of .0024. We pay 6.25% sales tax. The dealer wants first months payment of $1,458.30 + 182.50 (license/title fees) as down payment. Is this a good deal? Please help! Thank ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: Too many problems with my 740i [eric312]

  Written by: dtb0203 on Feb 13, 2007 8:20:26 AM

  I have a 2001 740iL and it's been the worse car I've owned. I purchased the car with 19K miles and before the 100K warranty was up, I had the following problems that were covered under warranty: 1. radiator replaced 2. 4 days after replacing radiator, the car was towed again to the shop to replace the supply reservoir (or something). 3. power steering hose replaced 4. regulator on rear door ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: BMW M6 convertible vs MB SL65 AMG [lexusguy]

  Written by: pat on Feb 12, 2007 11:16:59 AM

  Link: 2007 BMW M6 Convertible vs. 2007 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG

• Soon to be Sold on our Shores: BMW Alpina B7

  Written by: dewey on Feb 8, 2007 8:34:04 AM

  The Alpina B7 will soon be available in North America. Its supercharged 4.4L V8 will have 500hp/700 nm of torque. This B7 is only 0.1 seconds slower than the much lighter and smaller M5. Quite an accomplishment. The brutal torque is what makes this B7 a beast. BMW is bringing in the BMW Alpina B7 into the US market, with the model set to be on show during the 2007 Chicago ... Read More

BMW 7-Series 2007+

• New 2009

  Written by: shaung on Feb 23, 2006 8:47:16 PM

  Is garbage, I hope this is not the real car in the pictures. The back looks horrible. Why change something thats not broke, sales are oviously up, who cares about BMW enthusiasts? I fell in love with the 745 in 2001, the change now (750) is okay. Point blank, If it is soooo ugly and offending, why are sales through the roof? Stop it, you can't argue facts. "Offensive" is IN, ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: Well, [dewey]

  Written by: brightness04 on Jan 30, 2007 7:36:05 AM

  75 percent growth for the A8 is amazing for this emerging market and there are no ifs and buts about it! Actually that kind of growth for a particular model is not unusual at all for emerging markets. We are talking about a base of only a couple thousand units a year; high per centage growth is common when numerical base is low, in any market. Just to put in context, ... Read More

• Re: in Kentucky [maxhonda99]

  Written by: gshocksv on Jan 29, 2007 10:15:31 PM

  "Perhaps you should move yourself to a land where people are not as manipulated by marketing as in the US! The biggest the crock that has ever been pulled on humankind is the product called Mercedes! How people will flock to it just because of the 3-pointed star. It wasn't long ago when I walked into a Benz dealer and I pointedly asked the dealer why I should buy a MB ... Read More

• Re: 2007 Detroit Autoshow Pics [lexusguy]

  Written by: merc1 on Jan 23, 2007 10:41:50 PM

  Correct! The "Maybach" was a Mercedes when it was originally shown at the 1997 Tokyo auto show. What happened next was a classic case of German see, German does. VW and BMW got Bentley and Rolls so Mercedes figured they'd bring a prestigous name from past back to life. So at the last minute they changed the plan from calling it "The Maybach by Mercedes" to a seperate brand. Problem is ... Read More

• Re: Spoke to... [hpowders]

  Written by: tagman on Jan 18, 2007 11:09:04 AM

  Sat in the 2007 X5 at the showroom today... Disappointing! Well, then, you may have saved me a trip to the BMW dealer. I've been curious about the new X5. The new GL diesel sounds nice, and there will possibly be an additional version with a bigger V8 diesel as well. Only thing is, it seems too big. We'll probably just keep the wife's MDX for a while longer. She likes ... Read More

• Re: 2007 Detroit Autoshow Report! [merc1]

  Written by: tagman on Jan 15, 2007 3:04:15 PM

  this new X5 is seriously gorgeous, but don't kid yourself about it being able to seat seven, because it can't. That "third" seat isn't even fit for most kids let alone adults. I am very sorry to hear that. I was thinking of taking the wife to the BMW dealership to look at that new X5. She needs seats for seven. TagMan

• 2007 Detroit Autoshow cont....

  Written by: merc1 on Jan 15, 2007 1:33:56 PM

  Acura - You kinda feel sorry for Acura after looking at Lexus and Infiniti. They are in reality a collection of really nice Hondas with not one looker in sight. Porsche - The new Cayenne still looks best in Turbo trim only, just like before. Porsche didn't allow anyone to sit in the Turbo. The new 911 GT3 and GT3 RS were there for the hard-core 911 fans. I'd have a ... Read More

• 2007 Detroit Autoshow Report!

  Written by: merc1 on Jan 15, 2007 1:01:02 PM

  This year seems to have been more crowded than in recent years, maybe because I went on the first public day. It was very tough to get good pics this year, but I stil managed to get some great shots. I will posts the pics in a day or so. Now down to the business: Jaguar - The XF concept wasn't present. It was only for the preview days. They did ... Read More

• Re: Dewey!!!! [blkhemi]

  Written by: dewey on Jan 4, 2007 7:29:16 PM

  I'll hold you to those statements my friend. I am sure the specs of the new RS4 will be far more impressive than the current RS4. But specs dont mean much when the weight of the new AWD RS4 bogs it down. Edmunds has shown that even a BMW 335i can almost tie the current RS4 in 0 to 60 performance: We almost beat the all-powerful 2007 Audi RS4, too. Despite ... Read More

• Re: Maserati offers 1.9 percent financing [lexusguy]

  Written by: dewey on Jan 3, 2007 3:59:21 AM

  If people hate the SMG in a car like the M5, they're really going to hate it in the QP. If they get it right, a conventional autobox can still be a lot of fun (Jag XK) while being smooth as butter. As pointed out by Designman and others it appears even perfection has its shortfalls. There is a whiff of negativity about a manual BMW M5 (I never thought I ... Read More

• Re: The BMW X6 [hpowders]

  Written by: dewey on Dec 29, 2006 7:39:02 AM

  The BMW diesel offerings sometime next year could prove to be exciting. I will test drive any or all of them as they come out probably late in 2007. Perhaps the Mercedes Benz Bluetec too. Never drove any kind of diesel before. I love diesels myself but reality always gets in the way of my love. The reality is this: Diesel prices are not what they used to be. In the ... Read More

• Re: The BMW X6 [dewey]

  Written by: hpowders on Dec 28, 2006 2:57:58 PM

  I am sooo uninterested in a BMW X6. That photo looks like BMW's effort to refurbish an old WW2 tank. I wouldn't be caught dead in that. I have yet to find an SUV that I could be enthusiastic about. The BMW diesel offerings sometime next year could prove to be exciting. I will test drive any or all of them as they come out probably late in 2007. Perhaps the ... Read More

• Re: hpowers [hpowders]

  Written by: esf on Dec 23, 2006 9:52:23 PM

  Oh, my dream would be the 335dxi coupe... I know they'd never come out with an AWD diesel (that would be REALLY imitating Audi), but it's the ideal BMW, IMO. If not, I want a 335xi two-door. Is that coming out? I hope so. The new E92 is not only a beauty, but it has a fantastic new powertrain, a surprising amount of standard features and a more exclusive feel. Because ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2007 750i Lease, CA [ajgolf]

  Written by: kyfdx on Dec 22, 2006 7:47:00 PM

  1) Training fee and MACO are legitimate invoice charges.. The training fee is on every US BMW.. MACO is an advertising fee that varies by region/metro area.. Some dealers don't have it.. but that is rare. 2) I'm guessing the $870 includes $825 for acquisition fee and $45 for the document fee (California, right?). The acquisition fee is marked up the maximum $200 allowed by BMWFS (extra profit for the dealer). ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: Diagnosis help 2000 740iL [dwfla]

  Written by: Guest on Dec 19, 2006 7:25:35 PM

  First, I will say that I purchased a 2000 740iL (pre-Certified)in Feb 04 with nearly 50,000 miles. I love the car, the power but not all the expenses. Two days after I purchased the car, the high power power seeting line blew. No problem, as BMW said, it is under warranty - only $50 deductible, which I got the dealer to pay for. Then a few months later the battery went ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: LS460 Debacle..... [tagman]

  Written by: brightness04 on Dec 12, 2006 2:38:29 PM

  Of course they are both worth only $98k. The original MSRP is quite irrelevent. Do you think my Saab 9-5 MSRP $40k is better than the BMW 335i MSRP at $38.7k?? Thanks for the compliment, but I don't think so. Do you think 2006 R500 with MSRP of $55.5k is better than 2007 R500 MSRP at $50k? even if both are offered to you at $45k? Obviously not. Most people would ... Read More

• LS460 Debacle.....

  Written by: merc1 on Dec 11, 2006 3:31:03 PM

  Sword down for a moment. In reading the LS board I sense that some have decided to leave us again because there hasn't been enough praise of the new LS. In fairness, the review in which one compares the LS460L to the E63 AMG is bunk and not at all fair to the LS460L. Car and Driver's comparo while having some curious points concerning weight and having used a pre-production LS460L, ... Read More

• 2007 Automobile All-Stars

  Written by: tagman on Dec 9, 2006 11:01:51 AM

  Automobile Magazine has released the list of the 2007 Automobile All-Stars. The S-Class is included, of course. Here's the list of the 2007 All-Stars: 2007 Automobile All-Stars Here's a quote and the direct link to the S-Class: This latest S not only addresses every single criticism we've mentioned, it moves the bar for this class virtually out of sight. That's depressing if you work for Lexus or BMW but mighty good ... Read More

• Automobile Magazine

  Written by: dewey on Dec 8, 2006 11:33:41 AM

  Automobile Magazine selects their favorite cars for 2007. Oops there is one car missing? Where is the Lexus LS460? Oh well at least they did not forget the MB S Class and Aston Martin V8 Vantage ;) 2007 Automobile Magazine All-Stars 2007 BMW 3-Series 2007 Chrysler 300C 2007 Honda Ridgeline 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class 2007 Mazda3 2007 Lotus Elise Aston Martin V8 Vantage 2007 Infiniti G35 2007 Porsche Cayman 2007 Chevrolet Corvette ... Read More

• Re: Dewey [drfill]

  Written by: dewey on Dec 7, 2006 1:23:52 PM

  Here's DrFill's list: G35 3.5 (306HP, MT or AT) Dodge HEMI SRT-8 (Many vehicles, 425HP, 6.1L) Vette Z06 (7.0L 505HP, lightweight, 0-60 in 3.3) BMW 3.0 (255HP) Lexus LS460 (380HP from 4.6L, matching 5.5L) Mercedes BlueTec Diesel Ferrari 4.3 (483HP, 5-valves per cylinder) Honda S2000 (240HP out of 2.2L) 2007 Toyota Tundra (381HP, 400+ lbs.ft from 5.7L) Mazda RX-8 Rotory (1.3L, 238HP) No biturbo BMW engine on your list? This is ... Read More

• Dewey

  Written by: drfill on Dec 7, 2006 10:23:45 AM

  Audi AG 2L turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Audi A3) BMW AG 3L DOHC I-6 (Z4 3.0si) BMW AG 3L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (335i) DaimlerChrysler AG 3L DOHC V-6 turbodiesel (Mercedes-Benz E320 Bluetec/Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD) DaimlerChrysler AG Hemi 5.7L OHV V-8 (Chrysler 300C) Ford Motor Co. Duratec 35 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Ford Edge/Lincoln MKX) Ford Motor Co. 4.6L SOHC V-8 (Mustang GT/Mustang Shelby GT) Mazda Motor Corp. 2.3L DISI turbocharged DOHC I-4 ... Read More

• Ward's 10 Best Engines

  Written by: dewey on Dec 7, 2006 8:27:22 AM

  Here’s Ward's 10 Best Engines for 2007 at a glance (vehicle tested in parenthesis): Audi AG 2L turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Audi A3) BMW AG 3L DOHC I-6 (Z4 3.0si) BMW AG 3L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (335i) DaimlerChrysler AG 3L DOHC V-6 turbodiesel (Mercedes-Benz E320 Bluetec/Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD) DaimlerChrysler AG Hemi 5.7L OHV V-8 (Chrysler 300C) Ford Motor Co. Duratec 35 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Ford Edge/Lincoln MKX) Ford Motor Co. 4.6L ... Read More

• Re: Lexus to compete (or try to!) with AMG, M [syswei]

  Written by: tagman on Dec 4, 2006 8:35:52 AM

  Lexus will launch a performance brand in late 2007 to compete with Mercedes' AMG and BMW's M divisions. Lexus will start with an IS sedan equipped with a 425-hp, 5.0-liter V-8. The engine is a retuned version of the LS 600h L hybrid's engine, dealer sources said. Consider that Toyota's "TRD" vehicles are mostly cosmetic features. With regards to the IS, just raising the HP won't be enough. Serious suspension modifications ... Read More

• Lexus to compete (or try to!) with AMG, M

  Written by: syswei on Dec 4, 2006 7:52:20 AM

  Lexus will launch a performance brand in late 2007 to compete with Mercedes' AMG and BMW's M divisions. Lexus will start with an IS sedan equipped with a 425-hp, 5.0-liter V-8. The engine is a retuned version of the LS 600h L hybrid's engine, dealer sources said. The sedan will be called the IS-F. It will debut at the Detroit auto show in January. Lexus likely will carry that nomenclature into ... Read More

• C & D TOP 10

  Written by: dewey on Dec 3, 2006 1:30:13 PM

  Have you noticed that there is not a single HELC as defined in this forum among C & D Top 10 Best Cars? The BMW 3 series has consistently been picked among the top 10 since 1992 The Car and Driver 10 Best for 2007 are: BMW 3-series Chevrolet Corvette Chrysler 300 Honda Accord Honda Fit Infiniti G35 Mazda MX-5 Mazda Mazdaspeed3 Porsche Boxster and Cayman Volkswagen GTI

• Re: Considering the fact [drfill]

  Written by: tagman on Dec 1, 2006 8:35:56 PM

  2007 will show if the LS does steal share from BMW. And if that should happen, you will send me a special post, right? ;) TagMan

• Considering the fact

  Written by: drfill on Dec 1, 2006 7:04:42 PM

  That I predict the LS will clear 40k units for 2007, I'd say 3500 a month from now on would be normal LS business for Year 1. And 2500 for the S-Class could be consistent, if the LS doesn't affect it's sales. So 30k for the S550, and 40k for the LS. Since sales of the 7 have been pretty stable for the last two years, 2007 will show if the ... Read More

• November Sales Data for Lexus LS and Mercedes S-Class

  Written by: jcoby on Dec 1, 2006 3:52:12 PM

  Lexus and Mercedes-Benz have their sales data on their websites and is as follows (I found Lexus data at Toyota website): Lexus link title The LS 430 and the all-new LS 460 reported combined sales of 3,613, an increase of 116.3 percent. Mercedes link title (You will have to select December's data) Sales of the newest generation S-Class were nearly double this month over last November (2,780 vs. 1,400) I wonder ... Read More

• Re: Tag [tagman]

  Written by: jcoby on Nov 30, 2006 8:25:16 PM

  Of course it is a chink in Toyota's armor; I do not dispute this. However, it is quite a jump to say that Toyota and Lexus make more unsafe vehicles than any other manufacturer when that statement is not supported by the official IIHS press release or through an analysis of the data presented to the public via the IIHS database. The test in question is a rear-end protection test that ... Read More

• Re: Tag [tagman]

  Written by: jcoby on Nov 30, 2006 4:24:01 PM

  This is actually a perfect example of incorrect reporting and spin. This article that you provided to us does not accurately reflect the data from the IIHS itself. The article clearly gives the casual and incurious reader the impression that Toyota and Lexus vehicles perform poorly in crash tests. However, the rear protection crash study is more concerned with head restraint and seat design and is only one of many tests ... Read More

• Turmoil

  Written by: esf on Nov 29, 2006 7:41:07 PM

  I, too, look at AutoSpies sometimes to watch the posts. It's pretty hilarious. The people there are in constant fighting- it's like Lexus vs. Audi vs. BMW all the time! It's much more civilized here. And I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm assessing all the cars in the high-end class, from worst to best: Jaguar XJ: Old-world British charm just doesn't cut it any more. This car is beautiful ... Read More

• Re: Dewey [tagman]

  Written by: hpowders on Nov 29, 2006 4:11:00 PM

  Let 'em get the high-end V-8 X5 instead of the 7 Series. BMW's best interior is in the former. With a few options that I would want added to the base 2007 4.8 L V-8 X5, I came up with an MSRP of $74096, a true high-end vehicle. And yes, Tagman. That is exactly what I was attempting to convey about BMW's.

• KBB: BMW edged out in resale values

  Written by: syswei on Nov 29, 2006 1:55:46 PM

  Sister brands Honda and Acura topped the latest list of vehicle brands with the best resale value -- an important measure for upscale car buyers -- edging out longtime leader BMW. Volkswagen, which moved up to No. 2, and BMW and its Mini brand, tied for third, also earned high marks in Kelley Blue Book's survey for the 2007 model year, as foreign brands took almost all the top honors. Ford ... Read More

• Re: Tag/Merc [drfill]

  Written by: merc1 on Nov 28, 2006 5:33:22 AM

  Doc a "superior" luxury car doesn't come last place. At best it should have been 2nd or 3rd if were that convincing as a pure luxury car. What you're not seeing here is that the LS460L luxury wasn't superior enough to overcome its other flaws and on top of that it was priced at a very un-Lexus like 93K. That was only 10K less than the Benz, not the usual 15-20K. ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: 2007 750Li [sjonas50]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 28, 2006 2:36:41 AM

  Here's the information that you're looking for, sjonas50. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 BMW 750Li with 15,000 miles per year are .00200 and 58%, respectively with the payment of a security deposit at lease signing. With the deposit waived, the money factor would be .00015 higher. I believe that it is automatically waived at no charge ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: Lexus vs BMW: A question of integrity. [hpowders]

  Written by: houdini1 on Nov 27, 2006 3:19:34 PM

  Well, I would say the LS is where the "smart money" people go because after 4 or 5 years they cost considerably MORE than the S Class. I guess we will just have to wait and see which car will be the 2007 sales champ. As if we didn't already know. ;)

• Re: LS Interest [dewey]

  Written by: laurasdada on Nov 25, 2006 7:37:49 PM

  Yes, Dad enjoys his cars. Usually a little off-center including a (I think the year was) 1956 Mercedes 300(?) grey four door convertible that was not meant for the US. The rear view mirror flipped up like a periscope due to the huge rear stack created by the convertible top. The car had a "Dictaphone" in it, the speedo was, of course, calibrated in km/h. It was HUGE! He also had ... Read More

Article Comments: 2007 BMW Hydrogen 7 First Drive

• Article Comments: 2007 BMW Hydrogen 7 First Drive

  Written by: KarenS on Nov 22, 2006 5:59:48 AM

  Check out our view of BMW's first foray into hydrogen technology. Post your comments about the article here. First Drive: 2007 BMW Hydrogen 7

High End Luxury Cars

• My next car will have to be branded Tiffany

  Written by: dewey on Nov 17, 2006 8:23:09 AM

  OK Pat and Kirstin, here is some very HELC focused material: This year, just 92 seconds passed before Neiman sold out of its 50 limited-edition 2007 BMW 6 Series convertibles, with a 500-horsepower engine and $139,000 price tag (trip to Germany included) -- the speed and the price set a Neiman record. On Tuesday, Saks sold out of its 20 "Saks Special Edition" CL600 Mercedes-Benz cars for $160,000 apiece within 7 ... Read More

• Jaguar is NUMERO UNO

  Written by: dewey on Nov 17, 2006 4:20:49 AM

  J.D. Power and Associates rated Jaguar as number one in Sales Satisfaction for a 3rd consecutive year. The Jaguar brand has earned the top quality award from the German motoring magazine Auto Zeitung's . The Jaguar XK was Recommended for the 2007 Award in the Premium Sporty/Performance Car category by Consumer Guide. The fact that a such a small company like Jaguar which happens to be owned by a financially trouble ... Read More

• Re: Quality is Job One Again for MB [pat]

  Written by: dewey on Nov 13, 2006 2:36:35 PM

  Dewey and tagman - please go to the BMW 335i 2007 discussion if you want Dont worry. Unfortunately that leaves the BMW 7 and 6 as conversation topics which just happen to be my least two favorite cars from BMW. :(

• Re: Quality is Job One Again for MB [tagman]

  Written by: pat on Nov 13, 2006 11:54:41 AM

  Dewey and tagman - please go to the BMW 335i 2007 discussion if you want to talk about his new 335i. Sylvia was very serious about having to stay on topic. Please don't put me in a bad position.

• Well...

  Written by: hpowders on Oct 31, 2006 7:19:31 AM

  the X5 has beautiful wood. Seems the wood becomes more plentiful in BMW's as the driving experience diminishes. In my 545, the wood is manly and handsome. There just isn't a lot of it. And it doesn't scream "success' at you. Understated tasteful elegance. The quality of wood one would expect at an upscale steak house. As an aside, saw my first Lexus GS350 today (dark gray ) parked in my ... Read More

• Alright, let me come at it from a different way.

  Written by: drfill on Oct 29, 2006 7:24:56 PM

  First, I am not well-versed in Auto-tranny cars, nor pure luxury cars, so maybe I am both a good and bad judge of this class. I don't expect much in the way of connection with these cars, dynamically. I feel you need a manual transmission for any depper relationship with a car other than pure transportation. The particular course I drove on was not flat, and was marked conservatively to make ... Read More

• Ok, I'm back with my TOL Report!

  Written by: drfill on Oct 29, 2006 11:52:05 AM

  After a brief floor plan lesson, I'm out to test drive, not eat pastries! :P There are 4 LS460/L to drive, 2 750i, and one S550 are available, so the line for the S is about 45 minutes. After a scoot in the IS350 (no MT 250 was avilable), I drove the 750i, as the line was shortest here. Had a approx. 500 ft. straightaway for what was labeled "Acceleration Run". ... Read More

• LS460L

  Written by: syswei on Oct 22, 2006 3:46:08 AM

  There's an interesting early owner review on CL from a fellow who also owns a 2004 Phaeton and 2005 E55. He says among other things: 1. The Phaeton is bigger... 2. The Phaeton has more "road-hugging weight"... 3. The Phaeton cabin feels significantly wider, with commensurately greater shoulder room... 4. The Phaeton trunk is larger and more usable (our LS460L has the Tiny Trunk option)...[rear a/c and icebox] 5. A few ... Read More

• Vehicle Sales

  Written by: suvguy2005 on Oct 18, 2006 7:11:39 AM

  "So the IS sedan not only outsells the cheaper A4, easily, it also outsells vaunted G35 sedan!" A quote from the Edmunds review of the 2007 G35. "Last year, Infiniti sold 121,000 vehicles, 55,000 of which wore the G35 badge." Automotive News used to allow non subscribers to view the sales charts but no longer does so I can't check it. Before they cut off access I looked it up and ... Read More