2009 BMW 5 Series Consumer Discussions

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: Switching BMW Motor Oil to Synthetic Oil [cenla71466]

  Written by: busiris on Feb 15, 2012 10:29:55 AM

  Just my opinion, but you do know you responded to a 3 year old posting, don't you? I can't say, but was the oil shown in the PDF your post displayed available (with the same specs as in the PDF) in March 2009? A lot can change in 3 years. And, it's certainly not beyond the imagination to think that independent shops would recommend a product that is contrary to the ... Read More

Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: 2012 Mercedes E350 [james27]

  Written by: lawcar on Jan 16, 2012 9:04:16 AM

  I meant in general that the BMW is not as "luxury" feeling as the others. For example, it is not rough but does not ride quite as smooth (that's the nature of the BMW suspension), doesn't have as many features as "standard" or as part of a single package, navigation system is more cumbersome than on the Lexus touch screen, cupholders not as user friendly, interior not as finely finished. Again, ... Read More

• Re: 528i ? Re: 2012 Mercedes E350 [rayainsw]

  Written by: lawcar on Jan 13, 2012 9:09:00 AM

  Thanks, Yes I did drive the new 4-cylinder 528i. I liked the handling of it (more responsive than the E350) and didn't notice much of a difference with the 4-cylinder turbocharged engine compared to my 6-cylinder 2009 528i. But there were a few things I didn't care for: the keyless ignition (I like to turn the key, and all of the BMW's have the keyless ignition); the start/stop (the car vibrated ... Read More

• 2012 Mercedes E350

  Written by: lawcar on Jan 13, 2012 8:20:57 AM

  Well, it was almost anti-climactic after the several weeks of research, test drives, posting and reading on this website. I have been driving my black exterior/almond interior 2012 E350 which I picked up last week and really like it. While the black exterior does get dirty sooner than my medium gray BMW 528i, this color combination is very rich and elegant, yet sporty at the same time. Even though the car ... Read More

Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

• Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [dulnev]

  Written by: 55396 on Jan 1, 2012 10:51:16 AM

  It's not the driving experience that I want. It's everything else. I can make the driving experience what I want with a few changes and about 500 bucks.

2012 BMW 528i

• Re: 2012 BMW 528i Driving Experience [tenet1]

  Written by: shipo on Dec 31, 2011 8:43:57 AM

  Hey Tenet1, After the 530i my business parterner and I decided to launch a new niche business, and as part of that we opted to lose our nicer rides in favor of, ummm, errr, lesser mounts. In my case I went from the 2002 530i to a 3.8 liter 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport which I drove until the clock was showing nearly 180,000 miles. Then, as money was still tight ... Read More

2011 535i -- Last BMW for me

• Re: 2011 535i -- Last BMW for me [oozlefinch]

  Written by: lawcar on Dec 28, 2011 8:59:30 AM

  I have a 2009 528i and have not had any problem with it at all (except for some strange reason I've had more nails in my tires with this car than all of my other cars combined). I'm getting a MB E350 as I want to try something new, there are good incentives now and I've heard good things about it on the forum. It seems that with all cars there ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: BMW 535xi lease question [insidecarbuy]

  Written by: asw1 on Dec 21, 2011 7:44:42 AM

  NJ. Right now the deal I have is: 535xi Premium Tech Cold Weather Sat Radio Smart Phone. Cap cost is $500 over invoice less $3,700 inincentives. They then are reducing my cash at inception (first month, motor vehicle, etc) by my last 2 payments to cover them ($671x2 = $1,342). My new lease will be $698/month. A bit higher than my old one. One thing is that my turn in is ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Ventilation smell

  Written by: delwrang on Dec 12, 2011 3:42:21 PM

  I am not a real fan of the legal climate in the US, but when a company repeatedly denies the existence of customer complaints, it is time for a class action wake up call. A quick follow through of a web search of “ventilation odor” or other similar term produced hundreds of owners who have had smell issues with their BMW. My 3rd and likely final BMW due to this issue ... Read More

2011 BMW 5 Series Transmission

• Re: 2011 535xi [james27]

  Written by: jayrandall on Sep 16, 2011 8:01:38 PM

  Yeah, but which model Infiniti and year? My 2009 FX's 7 spd tranny was much smoother then this BMW 5 series.

• 2011 535xi

  Written by: jayrandall on Sep 16, 2011 7:59:49 PM

  Just leased a 2011 535xi ... car is loaded, about 70k MSRP. Anyhow, the transmission in this vehicle has the same issues noted throughout this blog. It is beyond annoying ... all the issues occur at low speeds, jerky take off, no response when flooring the pedal, and just a poor overall experience for such a beautiful car. Anyhow, I called my sales person today, notifed him and of course, he ... Read More

Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Why BMW, why? [qbrozen]

  Written by: ghstudio on Sep 1, 2011 7:08:25 AM

  I believe PDK was the only "automatic" transmission offered by porsche starting in 2009 (although I'm not sure about the cayenne).

• Re: Why BMW, why? [kyfdx]

  Written by: qbrozen on Sep 1, 2011 6:54:37 AM

  I typically see the older ones stating Tiptronic, which is very different of course. According to wiki, the PDK could be had in the 2009 Panamera, and, believe it or not, there is another generation of PDK even after that. I don't believe you'd find it too common until the 2010 models.

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: New to BMW Pricing...NEED HELP Please [bikerrn]

  Written by: phylp on May 15, 2011 6:18:55 PM

  I'll opine that your number is fair. However, how many miles are on the car? If the tires are worn, ask the dealership to put on a set. [When we bought a CPO 2008 BMW 535i in 2009, I had not even noticed the tires on the car. I drove another car, a 550 I think, and the 550 had worn tires, which I did notice and mentioned to the salesman. ... Read More

• New to BMW Pricing...NEED HELP Please

  Written by: bikerrn on May 15, 2011 2:42:18 PM

  I am considering the purchase of a 2009 CPO 528i with premium package and NAV. Dealer has retail price listed at $39,991. My question is where should I start my offer? Car is located in S.C. I'm thinking I should start somewhere around $35,500. If anyone can lend me some advise I would appreciate it. I've not purchased a CPO before. I'm a lexus driver but want to by a BMW ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Sedans

• Re: Should i consider a 535xi 2008 ? [pcman]

  Written by: bbrimmer on Aug 14, 2010 3:12:09 AM

  Thanks for the response. No, there was no explanation. The interesting thing is that they did recco the 535 in their 2009 April Cars Edition, but did not in the 2010 edition. BMW has shifted to a single turbo 300 hp this year. But I am glad to hear you have had no issues with yours.

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: New 2010 528i [wildcat8]

  Written by: mdx2008 on Aug 2, 2010 6:35:53 AM

  I just had my fuel pump replaced as well on my 2009. I am very disappointed. This is my 4th BMW but may be my last.

• Re: 2008 535i price [raven108]

  Written by: drgums on Aug 1, 2010 6:36:58 PM

  buyers beware,,,I am about to be bought out of my lease on my 2009 535xi because of the "HFP stall/engine defective." I have been told that approximately 25% of the 2008- 2010 335 and 535 BMW's have this defect. It is real and dangerous. check the various web sites regarding this issue. BMW is dealing with each customer on a case by case basis. I believe they are trying to avoid ... Read More

Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Luxury Performance Sedans [jjacura]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Jul 15, 2010 12:01:09 PM

  I come here from time to time, but the, er, attendance, is way down here. Perhaps it is because there aren't enough NEW models to merit discussion; or, perhaps, worse, "it's the economy stupid." You know, though, my $53,286 MSRP A6 (2005) went for the same monthly lease for the same term as my ~$49K MSRP A4 (2009) -- all this during a time when the Fed cut rates to nearly ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: 2009 535i dangerous defect in car [drgums]

  Written by: roadburner on Jul 5, 2010 7:15:49 PM

  The new pump was part number 13-51-7-594-943. It superseded part number 13-51-7-592-881 in January of this year; dealers began receiving them in February. All of the 881 pumps in stock were supposed to have been returned to BMW. However, the 943 pump was superseded in June by part number 13-51-7-613-933 which is a re-manufactured 943 pump. More than a few techs now think that the HPFP failures are/were a symptom of ... Read More

• Re: 2009 535i dangerous defect in car [shipo]

  Written by: roadburner on Jun 28, 2010 1:51:03 PM

  One of my friends is a service adviser at a BMW dealer and he's always been honest with me regarding BMW reliability issues. Just last week he told me that BMW's latest iteration of the HPFP may have well and truly fixed the problem.

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2009 535i dangerous defect in car [drgums]

  Written by: nyccarguy on Jun 27, 2010 8:20:09 PM

  Drgums - it seems you've experienced the dreaded hpfp (high performace fuel pump) failure, not once, but twice. This is not only a major problem, but a well known problem. People are having their cars bought back & even leases bought out. Check out the 335i board here on edmunds & bimmerfest. I'm glad you didn't get hurt. Let us know what you get next. Keep us informed of your dealings ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: 2009 535i dangerous defect in car [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: drgums on Jun 27, 2010 6:48:15 AM

  I understand,,,however I have 4 kids and I won't take that chance. I was lucky the first 2 times, but I will not risk this dangerous situation again. I am hoping BMW will do the right thing here. I prefer to avoid the legal route and re lease another BMW. At least I am still a loyal customer...

• Re: 2009 535i dangerous defect in car [drgums]

  Written by: Mr_Shiftright on Jun 27, 2010 6:36:30 AM

  The dealer might have suggested waiting for a 3rd failure so that you could implement your state's lemon law option. Some owners who are members of the Edmunds forums have bailed on their BMWs using the lemon law, for this very problem.

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2009 535i dangerous defect in car [drgums]

  Written by: gardis on Jun 27, 2010 6:25:13 AM

  Could this be a problem with the twin turbos? Isn't that a new engine for BMW? I saw a beautiful 2008 535i at Bridgeport CT BMW that was sitting on the lot for about 3 months but I passed, because I just had doubts about those turbos. I went with the 530i, standard in line 6 cylinder and I love it.

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: 2009 535i dangerous defect in car [shipo]

  Written by: drgums on Jun 27, 2010 6:21:58 AM

  Thanks for the clarification. However, this High Pressure Fuel Pump problem is extremely dangerous when the incident occurs. I still enjoy immensely the BMW car experience, ( having 12 BMW's previously) . However, this issue takes priority because of the safety considerations. I hope BMW will make good on this and move me into another vehicle so I can get back to my enjoyment without any worries.... Thanks for your input.... ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• 2009 535i dangerous defect in car

  Written by: drgums on Jun 27, 2010 5:54:57 AM

  I have been a loyal BMW customer for over 25 years. My 535i 2009 has had 2 dangerous "engine failures" while traveling at cruising speeds on major highways and bridges. The first repair was considered a" fuel pump defect." I was lucky not to be hurt in that first engine failure. However , the same thing happened again last week on the George Washington Bridge traveling in the left lane at ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• 2009 535i dangerous defect in car

  Written by: drgums on Jun 27, 2010 5:53:39 AM

  I have been a loyal BMW customer for over 25 years. My 535i 2009 has had 2 dangerous "engine failures" while traveling at cruising speeds on major highways and bridges. The first repair was considered a" fuel pump defect." I was lucky not to be hurt in that first engine failure. However , the same thing happened again last week on the George Washington Bridge traveling in the left lane at ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: CPO-528-34Kmiles-$36K [shyamy]

  Written by: phylp on May 3, 2010 12:59:32 PM

  shyamy, yes, without more info it is hard to compare. But, without more info, maybe the price is somewhat high at this point in the 2010-2011 model year. I purchased a certified 2008 BMW 535i in October 2009, with 26,000 miles, for a couple thousand dollars more than what you have been quoted. I thought the price was fair then and now. The dealer also "threw in" a new set of ... Read More

• Re: 2009 CPO 528xi price quote [raj_12]

  Written by: joe24 on Apr 29, 2010 11:40:55 AM

  It was in NJ. BMW of Tenafly gave me a price of $42.8K for 528XI that was MRSP of about $51,900. Most of the other dealers were around the cars direct price of $43.5. From what I've seen you can get $700 below cars direct if its on their lot and about $300 if they need to procure it from another dealer. I got the 535 Xi. After driving both, it ... Read More

Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: new blackberry trying to use with my E350 [sanjaysdca]

  Written by: abacomike on Feb 11, 2010 2:08:39 PM

  No, you were correct. I had 2 2008 BMW's, one I bought, and one the manufacturer gave me as a replacement. I traded the last BMW in for 2009 MB E350 sport, then traded that for an 2010. So you were correct, I made an error. Believe it or not, I test drove the Genesis about 2 months ago. Although it was responsive, etc., I found it to be "tinny" compared ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2009 CPO 528xi price quote [joe24]

  Written by: raj_12 on Apr 27, 2010 8:51:03 AM

  Joe: Could you tell me the Dealer you got this price from on the new 5 series. Also would need your folks advice on one of the used car I looked from a private party BMW 5 series, premium package, sports, navigation, miles on it 30K....its a 2008 model and the warranty is going to expire in 16 months. So would need your advice if its worth buying for 30K? Thank ... Read More

• Re: 2009 CPO 528xi price quote [yoshodeep]

  Written by: mdx2me4 on Apr 15, 2010 9:16:52 PM

  Hi! I just bought a 2010 528xi with premium package and value package for a little bit under what you see at CarsDirect.com. According to Yahoo Autos, there are still quite a few 2010 528xi (92 as of today) to be sold in Metro Detroit area. The price could come down even further. But, I pulled the trigger anyway. 1. This car is not getting cheaper because of the thin margin ... Read More

• Re: 2009 CPO 528xi price quote [joe24]

  Written by: phylp on Apr 15, 2010 3:24:58 PM

  Factoring into the deal the value of getting out from under the last three lease payments, and even at "only" a $5K discount from new (money is money), the miles and slightly more age on the CPO leaves a very good deal IMHO. It's a BMW. :)

• NEW BMW 2009

  Written by: goranv on Apr 4, 2010 7:12:19 PM

  As I mentioned couple post above I am looking for 2007 CPO Series 5, after browsing local inventory I came accross couple new 2009 Series 5 BMW in my area, and wondering what would be fair price. Dealer is asking $53,925 528i 350miles with navigation, keyless entry and probably Premium Package 1 Now knowing that there are couple 2010 at other dealership with similar configuration for $43,000 or one for $39,900 ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: High Pressure Pump [whitehot5]

  Written by: iwse on Feb 22, 2010 5:23:50 PM

  Just received a letter today from BMW corporate acknowledging problems with high pressure fuel pump (HPFP) problems on 2008/2009 535i models, and as such is extending the warranty on the HPFP from the normal 4 years/50,000 miles to 10 years/120,000 miles, whichever comes first. I'm saving that letter for any unfortunate future reference. My HPFP went at 17,000 miles on my 2009 535i x-drive. Dealer knew immediately the cause, though did ... Read More

• Re: High Pressure Pump [whitehot5]

  Written by: samsride on Feb 20, 2010 8:16:33 AM

  The delay and jump symptom sounds like an acceleration lag off the line. Lurching could be a fuel injector misfiring. With the misfiring, I was experiencing very rough idling and above 50 mph the car almost felt like it was bucking, which was the misfiring. The long cranking is a symptom of the HPFP. I would take your car into a BMW dealer for evaluation of the software (acceleration lag - ... Read More

• Re: 2009 535i - are they ALL lemons?? [vonrhett]

  Written by: samsride on Feb 10, 2010 2:40:16 PM

  Have you had a lawyer send a written notification to BMW NA? Depends what state you live in, but after so many attempts to fix an issue, the lemon law applies. Also if the car is out of service more than 30 days. I think you have 1 yr/12K miles for these events to occur. My dealer has stated that there are issues with the HPFP on the twin turbos - ... Read More

• 2009 535i - are they ALL lemons??

  Written by: vonrhett on Feb 9, 2010 5:27:50 PM

  The 2009/10 E60 with N54 is an amazing vehicle - when it runs. In the past 5 years, I've purchased a 645, 750, and two 5s, all brand new. Never a single issue with any, until the '09 535i (N54B30). What a nightmare, and BMW NA refuses to even help. In 8 months (since I took delivery), the fuel pump failed (HPFP), water pump failed, fuel control system failed, each time ... Read More

BMW Bids Bangle Begone

• Re: heading downmarket [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: pp2009pp on Jan 30, 2010 8:28:20 PM

  "Perhaps we are on the cutting edge of yet another breaking trend, that firms like BMW should seriously contemplate---why build cars in the US that are in direct collision with speed laws? " How about in direct collision with gas usage? My BMW 2009 X3 gets 14-15 mpg and it is small for an SUV. I heard that the 5-series Gran Turismo is as large as a 7 series. Isn't that ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2010 BMW 528xi, 2009 BMW 535xi, or 2010 MB E350 [jayrider]

  Written by: reverse2010 on Jan 30, 2010 6:10:32 PM

  Thanks for all info and sharing. Got a MB E350 4matic today about 2% below invoice price. The finance APR is 4.9% for 66 months.

• Re: 2010 BMW 528xi, 2009 BMW 535xi, or 2010 MB E350 [gardis]

  Written by: jayrider on Jan 27, 2010 12:43:24 PM

  Mercedes E class 350 sedan.

• Re: 2010 BMW 528xi, 2009 BMW 535xi, or 2010 MB E350 [jayrider]

  Written by: gardis on Jan 27, 2010 12:28:51 PM

  Can you tell us what is an "MB E350"?? I never saw that model in the dealerships. Thanks.

• Re: 2010 BMW 528xi, 2009 BMW 535xi, or 2010 MB E350 [reverse2010]

  Written by: phylp on Jan 27, 2010 11:38:28 AM

  I agree with sanjaysdca re: car over deal. I am amazed that dealers are not more flexible on pricing current inventory in this economy.

• Re: 2010 BMW 528xi, 2009 BMW 535xi, or 2010 MB E350 [reverse2010]

  Written by: sanjaysdca on Jan 27, 2010 10:54:56 AM

  Generally it is a good idea to buy the car and not the deal So by your post you should try to negotiate E350. Having said that you might want to look into 2010 BMW 550i here in Southern Cal they are going for 10K off MSRP (@carsdirect.com)

• Re: 2010 BMW 528xi, 2009 BMW 535xi, or 2010 MB E350 [reverse2010]

  Written by: jayrider on Jan 26, 2010 2:38:45 PM

  The 5 series is in for a big make-over this spring. They are discounting a soon to be outdated [but nice] design from the ground up. The MB E is all new with all the buzz and interest. They are still benefitting from the folks who have to have the newest car in the series. things will settle down a bit in the next year. The discount you get on the ... Read More

• 2010 BMW 528xi, 2009 BMW 535xi, or 2010 MB E350

  Written by: reverse2010 on Jan 26, 2010 2:31:16 PM

  I am getting the following quotes: 1) 2010 BMW 528xi, about $6k off MRSP of $56k 2) 2009 BMW 535xi, about $8k off MRSP of $60k 3) 2010 MB E350, about $4k off MRSP of $56k I like the car E350 a little better. But in term of deal, BMW has better deal. Did anyone buy such models recently? Is anyone interested in buying one by this Sat (end of this ... Read More

• Re: 2008 BMW 528i - Certified [newfort]

  Written by: phylp on Jan 15, 2010 8:36:59 AM

  I bought a similarly equipped 2008 BMW 535i with about that mileage in Oct 2009 for $39,800, plus new tires, and other non-price concessions. I did check out 2008 528i pricing. By that time, the good ones I came across were in the $33k to $37K price range, with miles under 20K. My two cents worth. -- It is even later along now. My "guess" is that the mileage and time ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: BMW 2009 528XI lease take over- help! [gtli]

  Written by: drjyothi on Dec 21, 2009 7:50:48 PM

  how did it work as far as sales tax goes when you took over the lease? i'm also looking at swapalease but not sure if my local tax ofc here in dallas is going to ask me for a few grand in sales tax when i go to register the car.

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• 2009 BMW 535xi High Pressure Fuel Pump Issues

  Written by: samsride on Dec 31, 2009 11:15:47 AM

  Bought my BMW this spring 2009 brand new. At 5K miles, check engine light came on. Fixed 3 times (software update, fuel injector replacement, fuel pump). At about 7500 miles, light came on, lost power and shut off. Luckily I was able to coast to the side of the road. Had to be towed. Had a fuel injector and cylinder replaced (blown to smithereens). Since this was the 4th incident with ... Read More

Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Not a popular sentiment, but here goes. . . [lexusguy]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Dec 29, 2009 11:57:48 AM

  My perception or comparison, if you like, was from this perspective: I got out of a 2005 Audi C6 A6 which was pretty well loaded and walked over to my new 2009 Audi B8 A4 (about 15 months ago). The switchgear, the steering wheel (although my A6 did not have paddle shifters), the console, the wood, the feel of the leather, the seat's firmness, the instrument cluster, the soft plastic on ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• European delivery lease

  Written by: bmwaudi2007 on Dec 28, 2009 3:19:07 PM

  This board was very helpful. Here is my deal on 2010 528 xi, 36 months lease with 15K per year. Pick up in Munich: January 14, 2010. MSRP $50,720 includes added multi-contour seats,$1200, and satellite radio, $595. Agreed price: $44,110 is $500 over European invoice. Minus $2500 (BMW). Gave 7 refundable security deposits to lower money factor, equal to 7 monthly payments. Finally, $546 per month with NJ taxes included. Drive ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: Replaced Fuel Pump/ Ignition Coil? [roadburner]

  Written by: rez on Dec 23, 2009 12:17:10 PM

  Thanx roadburner! my preliminary research outcome is that the faulty N54 engine were in cars until March 2008. I wonder when BMW started to manfacture the 2009's? Just wanted to ask anyone who experienced the failed fuel pumps and how their cars are performing after they were changed out. Anyone?

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2008 528i - Good Deal? [latribri]

  Written by: phylp on Dec 16, 2009 9:33:22 AM

  When I did my research to purchase a 2008 BMW 535i in October, I reviewed 528i pricing, too. Sounds like a good asking price, but allow me to suggest that you consider going under that by a good amount with your offer as it is almost the end of the calendar year. The 2011s will be out in the spring. I suspect you could get into a 2009 CPO for not ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: BMW 2009 528XI lease take over- help! [gtli]

  Written by: jtla on Dec 12, 2009 10:23:15 PM

  I think it all depends on how the original lease was structured. If it was a no down-payment lease, the original leasee will need to pay an incentive for someone to take over the lease. After all, he/she enjoyed the new car smell. On the other hand, if a person, while not advisable, paid a down payment -- which reduced monthly payment -- he/she will want/try to get a portion back. ... Read More

• Re: BMW 2009 528XI lease take over- help! [stonefoxx]

  Written by: gtli on Dec 12, 2009 12:16:23 PM

  I've taken over two leases of cars I found on Swapalease. A 335i and a GL450 Good experience both times. I was given $1k in cash to take the 335 and $2500 to take the GL. Your guy has it backwards.

• BMW 2009 528XI lease take over- help!

  Written by: stonefoxx on Dec 10, 2009 8:40:10 AM

  Hi all - I have an opportunity to take over a lease- 2009 528xi fully loaded-7k miles- 26 months left on the lease- the current leaser wants 2k for his pocket and wants me to pay the 600.00 lease transfer = 2600.00 out of my pocket- the monthly payment is 590.00 a mo. is this a good deal? can I do better at bmw on 2010 with all they are offering ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Starting problems on 2010 535i...HPFP

  Written by: acurious on Sep 15, 2009 9:22:17 PM

  Got my 2010 535i with M sport package on Aug 28, 09. At 850 and then 1000 miles, I had the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) go out. The car would start but it would sputter. BMW issued a bulletin on July 5, 2009 on the issue actually so it’s well known. I am surprised and perturbed that BMW did not rectify the problem for the 2010 (vehicles with the twin ... Read More

• High pressure Fuel Pump

  Written by: rrusso1 on Sep 14, 2009 2:56:43 PM

  A while ago I received some correspondence from BMW regarding the fuel pump on my 2008 535I. To be honest I paid no attention to it but I think it related to extending the warranty on the fuel pump. The other day I was doing about 65 on the Garden State Parkway and I felt the engine lose power. The car would still do better than 60 but it lacked power ... Read More

Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: AWD Infiniti M45x [houdini1]

  Written by: m4m on Nov 13, 2009 5:10:00 AM

  "...M45x is not a car you see often because the crowd tends to move towards BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Audi when shopping in this segment. However, I think this car more than holds its own in this segment." http://www.nadaguides.com/Garage-Blog/2009-Infiniti-M45x.aspx#continue link has been fixed

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2010 BMW 528 i xDrive [gmurthy]

  Written by: phylp on Nov 10, 2009 12:45:47 PM

  Sounds like a really nice car. IMHO: I would say that starting out at $44k is worth a shot, but I suspect you will have to go higher to make a deal. In my experience, BMW dealers "protect resale values" by not going low on the sales price of new cars. Or, should I just say -- they are going to make a profit (and a good one). I have noticed ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: Leasing a 2009 BMW 550i [dday1]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 6, 2009 3:38:55 AM

  Hi dday1. BMW is not providing lease support on 2009 5-Series models any longer. If you really want to lease a 550, you will have to go with a 2010 model. BMW Financial Services' November buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 550i with 15,000 miles per year are .00225 and 57%, respectively. When negotiating your lease on this car, make sure ... Read More

• Re: Leasing a 2009 BMW 550i [dday1]

  Written by: SergeyM on Nov 2, 2009 9:23:05 PM

  Leasing a used car seldom makes sense. With you mleage requirements you should go with a new car 3 year lease just to stay within new car warranty. Good deal for a 2010 550 with similar options and $72K MSRP (no-charge value pack) should be around $900, maybe a little higher.

• Leasing a 2009 BMW 550i

  Written by: dday1 on Nov 1, 2009 6:10:20 PM

  I am interested in leasing a 2009 BMW 550i with 7000 miles. Interested in leasing for 3 to 4 years, 15k per year. In negotiating the lease, what residual values and MF would you use? BTW, MSRP was $74k and current price is $62k. Thanks,

• Re: 550i MF & Residual - October 2009 [amgrouchy1]

  Written by: Car_man on Oct 20, 2009 3:27:02 AM

  You don't sound that grouchy to me, amgrouchy1. BMW Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 550i with 15,000 miles per year are .00155 and 57%, respectively. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

• Re: 550i MF & Residual - October 2009 [amgrouchy1]

  Written by: SergeyM on Oct 19, 2009 2:49:38 PM

  October numbers are 2010 BMW 550i Sedan 24 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate 36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00155 Base Rate for 15K miles per year, you should add 3% for 10K miles., MF does not change. You can shoot for invoice and agree on $2-500 over with some dealers. You will most probably have to order one. Not many 550 are in ... Read More

• Re: October 2009 MF [smartcpa]

  Written by: Car_man on Oct 6, 2009 3:48:40 AM

  Hi smartcpa. BMW's October lease program for the 2010 535xi is exactly the same as it was in September. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: 2010 E class [walounk]

  Written by: carolinabob on Sep 21, 2009 11:16:53 AM

  April 2009 Consumer Reports recommends the E350 based on much improved reliability reports. E class '03-'08: 96 rated systems with 8 all black ones and 9 half black ones. While this is not good, it ain't that bad either. There are many, many more all red and half red circles as well. '08 had two half blacks only. Also, CR recommended the E350 along with the M35, Audi A6 and BMW ... Read More

Can a BMW go for over a million miles?

• Are you kidding?

  Written by: pp2009pp on Sep 20, 2009 9:26:12 AM

  Yes, you can take the badge and fling it a million miles into the ether. Just drove a late model (I think 2009) BMW 5 series sedan. Quality has slid downhill from years past...this is how to make profits? The leather didn't even fit properly. It looked and felt like it didn't fit on the top of the seat and had a pretty sizeable gap against the edge where it looked ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: 2010 535i 36-mth lease question [acurious]

  Written by: rbr on Aug 27, 2009 12:12:10 PM

  acurious -- maybe carman will chime in, but I believe the official BMW rate for a 2010 535i is .00155, so the rest is going to the dealer, and you should be able to find a dealer that will give you .00155. Knowledge is power ... stick to your guns. Prepaying for mileage overages probably makes sense given that the per mile rate is less, but is that recoverable in the ... Read More

Buying a used 5 Series

• Re: Pre-owned 2009 BMW 528i - with 1100 Miles [kyfdx]

  Written by: firstbmw_ga on Aug 23, 2009 6:57:29 PM

  Hi kyfdx, Thanks for your input, much appreciated.. Is there any way to determine, what kind of issues got the BMW to buy back that vehicle ? I'm certainly going to pass on this car.. (If it's too good to be true, then it probably is...) Thanks, Sam.

• Re: Pre-owned 2009 BMW 528i - with 1100 Miles [firstbmw_ga]

  Written by: kyfdx on Aug 23, 2009 8:17:23 AM

  What do I think? I think BMW isn't going to buy back a $50K car for a battery "glitch". There had to be something seriously wrong with that car. I also wonder if the title has been "branded" as a manufacturer buyback. If it has, then the warranty may not be in effect. Sometimes they will do a program called "Trade Assist", because they don't have to brand the title. That ... Read More

• Pre-owned 2009 BMW 528i - with 1100 Miles

  Written by: firstbmw_ga on Aug 23, 2009 6:53:53 AM

  Hello, My first post, and also looking to own my first BMW.. I have looked at a 2009 528i (1100 miles) with full factory warranty until May 2013. It has Premium and Cold Weather Packages, Comfort Access, Leather Power Seats with Memory and Lumbar, Sunroof, iPod and USB Adapter, Xenon Headlights, HomeLink.. This is with an independent dealer in GA, and asking for $39,500 Looking at Edmunds.com and other sources, price ... Read More

Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

• Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [55396]

  Written by: dulnev on Aug 22, 2009 7:35:53 PM

  If you like Avalon and considering ES 350, check out the 2010 Buick Lacross. Never thought I would suggest a Buick to anyone, but you have to see this car to believe it. It is beautiful inside and (mostly) out, and is choke full of technology and features not available on BMW, Audi or Lexus that cost $20K more. I wouldn't want to buy it because the driving experience is supposed ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: '09 528i Res & MF? [joesao]

  Written by: Car_man on Aug 20, 2009 2:43:52 AM

  Hello joesao. Here's the information that you're looking for. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 528i with 12,000 miles per year are .00145 and 60%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2009 528i are .00050 and 55%. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

• Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [mobiusf1]

  Written by: 55396 on Aug 17, 2009 2:02:12 PM

  My impression is the same. I wrote the 528 off my list. Totally different experience. Thrashy, far less performance. Only the 535 for me. Still, my 03 Avalon gets up to 31 MPG runnung 80 with a load. 27-29 is more typical if windy etc. though. I would take a hit there with the 5 Series. Guess the fun factor would have to make up for it, but after upgrading the ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: BMW 5 Series lease [dazzling]

  Written by: dulnev on Aug 14, 2009 2:55:38 PM

  I know what the problem is. You're trying to lease a 2009 car. That's a HUGE MISTAKE as the residuals are very low. If you want a 2009, you should buy it. But if you want to lease, get the 2010 and your payments will be much lower.

• BMW 5 Series lease

  Written by: dazzling on Aug 14, 2009 7:35:28 AM

  We have been leasing with BMW for quite some years now. We just leased a 2009 X 5 4.8i. Now i wasn't to lease a 2009 BMW 535i. Loaded with the M package body kit and wheels. The payments they quoted me is 840 with no money down, 12K miles / 36 month lease. Is this a good deal????/ Thanks 1050 535i USD 51,100.00 416 Carbon Black Metallic N/C LCSW Black ... Read More

BMW 5-series Handling Problems

• Re: BMW 5-series Handling Problems [838tom]

  Written by: somil on Jul 31, 2009 11:25:44 PM

  Did you get your car fixed? I bought a 2009, 520D in may 2009. I'm also facing the same problem, so far it appeared 3 times. The car just starts moving left right and doesn't stay straight. When ever I take it to the dealership it doesn't show up and they tell me that they have checked the car but couldn't find anything wrong. This problem is so random, in past ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: CAPA2 [capa2]

  Written by: Car_man on Jul 14, 2009 3:19:31 AM

  Hi capa2. I realize that you're talking about a 2010 model and that dealers are probably more anxious to unload whatever remaining 2009 5-Series models they have, if any...but $2,000 over dealer invoice doesn't get me very excited. If I was in the market for this car, I personally would do some comparison shopping to see if I could beat this price. BMW is not currently providing any cash incentives on ... Read More

Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

• Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [prema1]

  Written by: tayl0rd on Jul 6, 2009 1:02:37 PM

  ... BMW 550 has a great balance of comfortable but performance oriented ride. However the GS460 is much better. The cornering experience is much superior due to the active suspension which holds it flat in sports mode. ... You do know that the ('08+) 550i Sport has Active Roll Stabilization (ARS)? It's the same concept as the Lexus system you're praising. You must not've been driving the 550i Sport or it ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• MY PURCHASE 2007 530i

  Written by: speedy19 on Jul 3, 2009 1:18:09 AM

  I finally did it. this is BMW #2. 2007 BMW 530i Black Sapphire / Black Leather Premium/Xenon/Nav List $34995 18k miles 50k bumper to bumper ends 12/2010! CPO Car. Ends 12/2012 I paid $32,500. I also paid $1800 for the extended maintainence plan until 12/2012. (THE EXTENDED MAINTAINENCE PLAN WENT UP ON 5 series JULY 1 2009 by $300-$500 (cost / retail?) - CONFIRMED the dealer screwed up and at the ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• 2009 535i xdrive demo w. 6100 miles for $639?

  Written by: s24w on Jun 16, 2009 1:31:57 PM

  We are looking at the following vehicle: 2009 BMW 535 i xdrive demo with 6100 miles. Original MSRP 59670 Vehicle options: Cold Weather Pkg Premium Pkg All Wheel Drive Steptronic Auto trans ipod & USB adaptor Navigation system Sattelite radio w/ 1 yr mbrship destination charge ($825) Offering for $51995 minus 2500 cash = $49,495 Money factor .00175 36 mo. lease 50% depreciation $725 Acquistion fee $201.46 Document fee $650 Security ... Read More

• Re: BMW offering Factory-to-dealer $5000? [teck2u2]

  Written by: Car_man on Jun 29, 2009 5:05:06 AM

  Hi teck2u2. BMW is indeed providing $5,000 dealer cash on the 2009 5-Series. However, this cash is not compatible with its special financing or lease programs. It's only good on cash deals, including real cash and deals that are financed through banks other than BMW FS. There is no cash available on 2010 models. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• BMW FS 2009 JULY PROMOTIONS ON CPO?

  Written by: speedy19 on Jun 28, 2009 6:20:19 PM

  Hi kyfdx and Car_man, any idea what the promotions will be through BMW FS in 2009? I am looking to purchase a CPO (2007 or 2008) but dont know if I should wait for July to see what happens or continue on and purchase by June 20. What do you think? When do they usually disclose what is going to happen in July? Do dealers know already? help! thanks, ajay

Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

• Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [choe13]

  Written by: prema1 on Jun 23, 2009 3:32:08 PM

  I was a life-long BMW driver. I had a 325, 328 and most recently a 330Ci. I was looking at upgrading to a BMW 550i, when I decided to test-drive a Lexus GS460. I was totally blown away by the Lexus. Superior build quality, superior handling (with the standard active suspension on the GS460), better steering experience, much more intuitive user interface (I love the touch screen), and much more engaging ... Read More

BMW 5-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: End of lease buy-out question [hoosbest]

  Written by: jmcbmw on Jun 22, 2009 11:31:30 PM

  I didn't have to counter. They have been calling me (almost too much) and lowered the price 3 times total. They are calling it a "rebate" I believe it's only on the X3 however. My residual was something crazy like 75-77% when I leased 2 years ago which got me a great lease deal but they are getting hit on the turn in. Also, if I return the X3 there is ... Read More

• 535 i Xdrive Demo $639/mo Lease Help/Advice

  Written by: s24w on Jun 16, 2009 10:01:03 AM

  We are looking at the following vehicle: 2009 BMW 535 i xdrive demo with 6100 miles. Original MSRP 59670 Vehicle options: Cold Weather Pkg Premium Pkg All Wheel Drive Steptronic Auto trans ipod & USB adaptor Navigation system Sattelite radio w/ 1 yr mbrship destination charge ($825) Offering for $51995 minus 2500 cash = $49,495 Money factor .00175 36 mo. lease 50% depreciation $725 Acquistion fee $201.46 Document fee $650 Security ... Read More

• Re: Looking for a new 2009 BMW 535i [greenkid]

  Written by: dulnev on Jun 16, 2009 9:46:08 AM

  According to carsdirect.com you should be paying well below invoice now. New incentives started about a week ago...

• Re: Looking for a new 2009 BMW 535i [letsgogiant]

  Written by: greenkid on Jun 15, 2009 1:25:26 PM

  Letsgogiant, 100$ over invoice is a great deal. The invoice of my car was 55400$. If you are getting the same car for 100$ over invoice you can potentially get it for 1000$ less than me. Go get it! It cant get any better than this. Let me know how it goes.

• Re: Looking for a new 2009 BMW 535i [greenkid]

  Written by: letsgogiant on Jun 15, 2009 11:07:48 AM

  greenkid, Congradulations on your new car. That sounds like a good deal. Can you let me know what's your negotiation strategy and what's the invoice on your car? i got a quote from a local dealer on a new 535 i for $100 over invoice - $5000 over the weekend. I don't know if I should continue to negotiate the price lower when I go in the dealership or should I ... Read More

• Re: Looking for a new 2009 BMW 535i [letsgogiant]

  Written by: greenkid on Jun 14, 2009 11:09:55 AM

  Letsgogiant, I bought '09 535i with the 5000$ cash rebate. I paid 51500$ for 535i sapphire black with premum pkg, cold weather, park distance, confort access and navigation. Was oroginally priced at 59775 and I bought it for 51500 after 5000 cash rebate. This sounds like a good deal to me, what do you think. Good luck.

• Looking for a new 2009 BMW 535i

  Written by: letsgogiant on Jun 12, 2009 1:32:31 PM

  I have been looking for a new 2009 bmw 535i for a while but can not pull the trigger. Now that BMW offered $5000 dealer cash, it's time to make the move. Has anyone on this board bough a 5 series recently after the dealer cash was out? What's the deal looks like? I checked the inventory, seems like not much 2009 left, though. Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.

Article Comments - 2010 MB E550 Sport vs. 2009 BMW 550i Sport vs. 2010 Jag

• Article Comments - 2010 MB E550 Sport vs. 2009 BMW 550i Sport vs. 2010 Jag

  Written by: KarenS on Jun 10, 2009 12:03:45 PM

  Building an ideal executive-style luxury sedan is not an easy task for a carmaker. If the car turns out too soft and isolated, you lose enthusiasts who aren't quite ready to retire in a Lexus. Too complex or high-strung and you risk alienating your technology-challenged, soft-in-the-middle buyers who expect a measure of mindless comfort. Get the balance just right, and your five-passenger $60,000 midsize sedan will both impress with remarkable dynamics ... Read More

BMW 5-series Handling Problems

• BMW 5-series Handling Problems

  Written by: 838tom on Jun 9, 2009 7:47:55 PM

  I leased a brand new 2009 BMW 528i less than a week ago, drove home in a bumper-to-bumper traffic (therefore never exceeded 30-40 MPH). My son borrowed the car to a tennis tournament some 20-miles away the following day, came home complaining about the handling on the freeway. I kinda ignored him as I thought the car was a little "too nice" for him. I never got a chance to drive ... Read More

Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

• Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [adamjmank]

  Written by: 55396 on Jun 8, 2009 2:06:52 PM

  My daughter has an 06 Sonata, replacing a 97 Camry, one of which we also had. My first impression was that it didn't measure up to the Camry and the ride was too stiff. I drove it again last week and didn't notice those things, except that the seat doesn't go back nearly far enough. She loves it, esp the V6. Performs well. Give the Genisis some time. I'll keep my ... Read More

• Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [mmoreno1978]

  Written by: 55396 on Jun 8, 2009 12:21:05 PM

  Mercedes E-Class and Infiniti M Mercedes has had horrendous quality problems and sounds like the battery drains down in just a few days. Infiniti M got rave reviews from Jin Healey @ USA Today, but gets horrible gas mileage.

BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

• Re: Is this a good deal? [Car_man]

  Written by: hotmeal on Jun 5, 2009 10:07:49 AM

  Hi Car_man, Thanks for the reply. I leased a 2006 X3 and the lease term is due soon. I visited several BMW dealers. Their leasing prices varied quite a bit. The one that I bargained the most gave me the following: MSRP $52875 - Premium, Cold, I Pod and Xenon Credits applied: $1,500 loyalty and $2,500 for the 2009 528 Xi model Price offered: ~$4,6700 Walk away payment:$1,000 (1st month and ... Read More

• June lease money factors on 2010 528I

  Written by: chadnaustin on Jun 5, 2009 5:57:18 AM

  Can you advise what BMW Financial Services' June buy rate lease money factor and residual value are for a 36 month lease of a 2010 528i with12,000 miles per year. Based on BMWs sales results for May 2009, is $500 over dealer invoice reasonable?