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  • Deal or Steal?

    Written by: ikejones on May 7, 2013 7:21:24 PM

    2013 BMW 335i Coupe 6MT Premium M Sport Nav Lease Terms Lender BMW Financial Services Term 36 Months Mileage 12,000/year Money Factor 1.27 Residual Factor 64% Selling Price $49,940.00 Total Capitalized Cost $49,940.00 Residual Value $35,056.00 Total Depreciation $13,384.00 Capital Reduction $1,500.00 Monthly Depreciation $371.78 Monthly Rent $106.04 Monthly Payment $477.82 Tax (9%) $43.00 Monthly Payment + Tax $520.82 Capital Reduction $1,500.00 Cap Reduction Tax (9%) $225.45 License & Registration $459.00 ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 328i xDrive [jss9]

    Written by: sbedi88 on May 7, 2013 7:55:19 AM

    Dave Walter BMW in Akron. The salesperson's first name is Robert. Let me know how it goes. Good luck!

  • Re: 2013 328i Lease Question [graphicguy]

    Written by: au1994 on Apr 8, 2013 5:44:18 AM

    A few test drives on Saturday... Went to my BMW dealer so I could compare a 328 and 335 back to back. Drove identically equipped Sport Line cars. Impressions are below: * Auto Start/Stop on the 328i is just annoying enough that I would disable it everytime. A definite shudder when the car restarts. * Fit and finish of both are still stellar. I didn't detect any down grading of interior ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 328xi MSRP $45,645 [bmwillu]

    Written by: bmwillu on Apr 2, 2013 12:04:42 PM

    I end up purchasing BMW 328xi Luxury Line. Black Exterior & Tuffle Interior. Luxury Pkg, Premium Pkg, Cold Weather pkg, Navigation MSRP 48K - 44486.93 OTD Following rebates included in OTD -$1000 Finance rebate -$750 Loyalty Rebate

  • Re: 2013 328i xDrive [flightnurse]

    Written by: sbedi88 on May 1, 2013 12:50:42 PM

    Thanks! It was actually a very easy process too. The lease agreement has no loopholes and is very clear cut. There is only a 350 disposition fee at lease end if you don't lease another bmw or buy the one you leased. I am very pleased. The money factor was 0.00129. No multiple security deposits. The residual was based on 64% making the amount 33052.80 based off an MSRP of 51345. ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 328i xDrive [dchabitant]

    Written by: sbedi88 on May 1, 2013 11:09:30 AM

    So I ended up going with the imperial blue 328xi luxury line with cold weather, premium pkg, drivers assistance pkg, Nav, and bmw apps. They included rubber mats and 2 coffee mugs. Msrp 51345, negotiated price of 48200. Leased for 525 a month for 36 months/12k with 2880 due at signing (taxes, bank fees, plate fees, first months payment). I am happy with the negotiated price (around $600 over edmunds invoice) ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 328i xDrive [sbedi88]

    Written by: brooklynaudi on Apr 28, 2013 8:55:24 PM

    IF you read the bottom of that website 2013 BMW 328i Sedan xDrive 36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00129 Base Rate To calculate residual values for 12k miles/yr please add 2%. For 10k miles/yr, please add 3%. So the RESIDUAL for 12K is going to be 64%. That website is giving quotes for 15K miles and expects you to add 2% if you want 12k miles/yr

  • Re: 2013 328i xDrive [dchabitant]

    Written by: sbedi88 on Apr 28, 2013 1:29:44 PM

    Oh that helps a lot! Thanks. The general manager at the dealership showed me the computer screen as he located these 2 cars in their system. The "wholesale" price looked to be $200 more than Edmund's invoice... not sure what that is about. I also tried to work a deal on a 320XI with alpine white, black leatherette, dark burl walnut trim, premium package, driver assistance package, lighting package, nav with ... Read More

  • 2013 328i xDrive

    Written by: sbedi88 on Apr 27, 2013 9:08:20 PM

    Hello! I'm looking to lease my first BMW and need some advice. Right now I have come down to 2 vehicles and need some help and need to know if I am getting a good deal. Vehicle 1: 328xi glacier silver metallic (550) with black dakota leather, dark burl walnut (500), cold weather package (950), premium package (3100), nav (2150), lighting package (900) for a total of $44,930. This is about ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

  • Re: Entry level larger luxury sedan [buyerhelp]

    Written by: plekto on Apr 27, 2013 12:22:57 PM

    One thing I note is that a lot of the cars mentioned are smaller euro-sedans. And while this is fine, if you want a large car, you're looking at a Big Lexus, Acura, Cadillac, Mercedes, Volvo, Audi, or BMW. Others do make similar cars, but they tend to be overpriced or far more sport than luxury. A quick run - down: Acura. Pretty much the TL. It's basically a Japanese Buick ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [mvs1]

    Written by: carnaught on Apr 9, 2013 7:58:34 PM

    The ES has much more backseat legroom than the A4. In a nutshell, BMW compared to Lexus is much more fun to drive than ride in. Vice versa for the Lexus.

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: mvs1 on Apr 9, 2013 5:48:34 PM

    Between my wife and I we've owned/leased each of these vehicles over the past say ten years and add to this an Audi A4 and Lexus RX. I'd like to share my opinion on what you have posted, but do encourage you to drive everything you're interested in. Car buying...test driving is fun and vehicles are expensive, so enjoy picking out what you like. Many of the important items you'll get ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: nyccarguy on Apr 9, 2013 10:36:35 AM

    roomy (would like the back seat as wide as possible for 3 to fit comfortable. Have two car seat and still have the middle person have enough room). I think you are looking in the wrong class (size wise) of cars. Any of these will fit 2 car seats in the back, but fit a 3rd person comfortably in the back with the 2 car seats? I don't think so. Are ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: flightnurse on Apr 9, 2013 10:32:48 AM

    For work I travel, and rent a lot of cars. Lately I have been renting many Buick LaCrosse's I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with them. They are comfortable, roomy, good power and get decent MPG. The price difference between a Top of the line LaCrosse and ES is about 10K, which is a lot of money. As graphic has pointed out, you are sold on the Lexi, why waste ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: m6user on Apr 9, 2013 9:21:26 AM

    Yes, the Lexus is a little smoother and bigger inside as it's now based on the Avalon and not the Camry as someone else mentioned. In fact, if you're not totally immune to a Toyota versus Lexus you might take a look at the Avalon. From what I saw at the auto show and from what I've read about it, it seems to have an almost luxury class interior and the ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [m6user]

    Written by: ilexusbuyer on Apr 9, 2013 8:45:28 AM

    Thanks m6user. I did try out the Acura TL also. It did not feel as smooth as lexus and also felt a little small from inside (compared to lexus). The controls on lexus were much better also. I guess, these are the personal things one notices after the test drive. Overall, I like Acura TL also. I live in norcal with no weather/snow issues.

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: m6user on Apr 9, 2013 8:34:06 AM

    I think you should look at the Acura TL. It's front wheel drive like the Lexus, gets excellent MPG, rated very high reliability and low maint especially if you plan on keeping it a long time(which you indicated). The German cars will no doubt cost you more time and money after you get out of warranty time and miles. If you have to deal with snow the Lexus and TL being ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: graphicguy on Apr 9, 2013 8:27:02 AM

    Looks like a Lexus fits your bill. Maintenance costs are going to be a bit high. Have a neighbor who has two "Lexi". He is contstantly complaining about how high maintenance is, even for routine maintenance. Then again, someone has to pay for those oppulent showrooms. Any of these vehicles will go for 200K miles. As you're aware, strict maitenance is key, however. Value for money....hmmmm....looking at that and low maintenance ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [dino001]

    Written by: ilexusbuyer on Apr 9, 2013 7:45:30 AM

    Thank you cdnpinhead, stickguy, graphicguy, dino001 for your input. So far have only driven lexus, so I still need to drive others to see what I like personally. What I wanted to get here was experiences from others. My Priorities : - Luxury - smooth and quiet driving - least maintenance cost - good mpg - roomy (would like the back seat as wide as possible for 3 to fit comfortable. ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: dino001 on Apr 9, 2013 7:00:52 AM

    Lexus ES is front wheel drive, whereas the other three are RWD-based, or AWD if you choose such. That makes a big difference in handling on ramps and corners. Lexus is Camry-based, but I would not say it's just a Camry, because that's not really fair. However, it will definitely share some characteristics with its common sister. If you are interested in feel of luxury at a great price, quite and ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [stickguy]

    Written by: graphicguy on Apr 9, 2013 6:21:17 AM

    lexusbuyer...based solely on your user name, I'd say your mind is alreayd made up? Gotta agree with stickguy here. All are fine cars. But, if you are looking for that isolated feel of an ES350, you'll probably be disappointed in the others you're looking at. Nothing wrong with that. It's all personal preference. I think the ES was either new for this year, or last year at the earliest. What are ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: stickguy on Apr 8, 2013 9:15:18 PM

    all fine cars, in their own way, but quite a bit different from each other. so the answer really depends on what is important to you. Based on these choices, the fact that you are leaning toward the ES says to me that you desire quite comfy luxury, not sporty. If so, fine choice! in this group, I will say that driving them all is key.

  • Re: 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i [ilexusbuyer]

    Written by: cdnpinhead on Apr 8, 2013 9:13:51 PM

    I am leaning towards ES350. . . If you've driven all four of these cars and still prefer the Lexus, then you are their target demographic. Go for it.

  • 2013 Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i

    Written by: ilexusbuyer on Apr 8, 2013 9:03:10 PM

    So I am in the market for entry level luxury. I have narrowed my choices to Lexus ES350, InfinitiG37, BMW 328,i, BMW 335i. Anyone has any +ve/-ve about any of these? I am leaning towards ES350, but at this point still open.

  • BMW 328i vs. 328i xdrive vs... Acura TL04

    Written by: leoblue on Apr 2, 2013 6:22:29 PM

    Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum. I'm sorry in advance if my question has been discussed before (haven't been able to go through 15000 previous posts yet, but I will). And also sorry in advance to BMW 3series fans because what I'll write may sound like I'm trashing BMW. But in fact, on the opposite, I'm looking for your help to make the case that BMW 3 is still the ... Read More

  • Re: BMW and me.... [robr2]

    Written by: flightnurse on Mar 28, 2013 9:11:22 AM

    I do not believe the iPhone does, in fact, I have a 2013 Ford taurus limited with 203 miles on it. Every time I start the podcast it run in 1.5x speed and this is being plugged into the USB port and playing through the radio. I do not have a problem with it is playing through blue tooth audio. On a side note, Fords audio system My Ford Touch, sucks.. ... Read More

  • Re: BMW and me.... [flightnurse]

    Written by: tlong on Mar 24, 2013 10:56:29 PM

    Your math is not correct as Dino and pointed out, the 2009 you own, the 2013 you do not, so in the end, the 2009 is the better deal, once it is paid off, the kid has something that is worth $$. You keep keep accusing me of these "leader ad" crap. however, you have no proof of it, so please show this forum any proof of this, since you are ... Read More

  • Re: BMW and me.... [sweendogy]

    Written by: flightnurse on Mar 24, 2013 5:33:30 PM

    Your math is not correct as Dino and pointed out, the 2009 you own, the 2013 you do not, so in the end, the 2009 is the better deal, once it is paid off, the kid has something that is worth $$. You keep keep accusing me of these "leader ad" crap. however, you have no proof of it, so please show this forum any proof of this, since you are ... Read More

  • Re: BMW and me.... [flightnurse]

    Written by: sweendogy on Mar 23, 2013 9:05:00 AM

    I love the first post directed at me- then the follow up post that is basically my answer to the first question you ask. Now leader ads are your specialty - but instead of trying to be confrontational lets add some value, do a little research - something - the insurance answer is "a lot" just like it would be on a new civic relevant to each selling price. Here we ... Read More

BMW End of Lease Buyout

  • 2013 328i Lease

    Written by: ballfan on Mar 18, 2013 3:04:07 PM

    My local dealership contacted me about ending my lease 3 months early on my 2011 328i. Here is the offer they proposed: BMW pays the remaining payments on my current lease (2011 328i). 2013 328i Premium Pkg Alpine White Exterior Beige Interior MSRP $41,345 36 month lease 10K miles per year $1750 rebate $500 bonus cash 0.0017 money factor 63% residual $470/month $250 due at signing Is this a good deal? ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • Re: 2013 328i Lease Question [au1994]

    Written by: graphicguy on Mar 16, 2013 7:47:40 AM

    au.....$45k would net a CTS coupe. I test drove one a year or so, ago. Pretty good car for the money if you like the style. As FN pointed out, the BMW E92 coupe is still on dealer lots and BMW is cutting some sweet deals on the. IMHO, the E series is better than the new F series. Good luck...let us know how it goes!

  • Re: 2013 328i Lease Question [au1994]

    Written by: flightnurse on Mar 15, 2013 9:30:27 AM

    BMW has some incredible deals right now on the coupe and convertible as they want to move them out before the 4 series arrive. A friend of mine in Atlanta just leased a 2013 335i convertible fully loaded there is 2350 cash back on them right now, and the MF is pretty low with a high residual, so this makes a perfect combo.. I love the A5, however for the price, ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 328i Lease Question [graphicguy]

    Written by: au1994 on Mar 15, 2013 7:17:41 AM

    thanks GG. I think the 4 series is pretty sharp from the pics I have seen. Definitely a totally different vehicle from what I have now, which I have thoroughly enjoyed btw. Agree on the A5. Styling is obviously subjective but I think that is one of the best looking cars on the road at any $ amount. If only that roof slid back it would be a no brainer! S4 ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 328i Lease Question [au1994]

    Written by: graphicguy on Mar 15, 2013 7:01:38 AM

    The BMW 4 series is the successor to the E92 3 Series coupe, which is still on dealer's lots. From the pictures, it looks substantially different than the current 3 Coupe. That said, the A5 is GORGEOUS, IMHO! Didn't know that about the sunroof, though. I thought it opened all the way. Sounds like the sunroof in the Caddy CTS Coupe, as it only tilts because of the roofline. You really ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

  • Interesting article also the NY Auto Show

    Written by: flightnurse on Mar 14, 2013 6:07:32 PM

    It was a short info article really about the expanded 3 seriehttp://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/driveon/2013/03/14/bmw-3-series-di- esel-new-york-auto-show/1988237/s line up that is coming read it article I will not be making it to the NY Auto, I'm dealing with some family issues right now. So anyone going, I would love to hear about the new Wagon and the GT...

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • Re: Buying 2013 328i xDrive in PA [roadengine]

    Written by: insidecarbuy on Mar 13, 2013 6:13:19 PM

    Some dealers configurer deals different ways. He should have just structured it first month and bank fee out of pocket and it would have come out to $1,143.04 plues DMV. With that being said on a car with that MSRP you should have a monthly payment of $418.04. Doesn't look like he is giving you such a great deal. See the details of what the deal should look like below... Good ... Read More

  • Buying 2013 328i xDrive in PA

    Written by: roadengine on Mar 12, 2013 6:58:37 PM

    I am looking to buy 2013 328i xDrive in PA and below is the price I got from dealer. Wanted to check if its a good deal or I can negotiate further. This is first time I am buying a BMW. MSRP: $43,445 Sale price: $40,795 Total Rebates: $1000.00 Base Monthly payment : 458.61 Tax : 41.27 Monthly Payment: 499.88 term : 36 months Residual Amount: $27370.35 Money factor/rate: 0.00135 Mileage ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 328 xDrive MSRP $47,095 [scorz]

    Written by: narjisse on Mar 11, 2013 9:28:19 PM

    MSRP: $47095 So Your Purchase Price is: $44800 ? ($2300 off of MSRP is a good deal.) - $1000 USAA discount - $1000 finance incentive Total = $42800 * weather mats = rubber mats from BMW for free?

  • 2013 328xi lease

    Written by: murphy143 on Mar 7, 2013 3:51:35 AM

    Here is what we were offered: MSRP: $49,795 Sale price: $49,000 Customer cash: $4,751.99 (includes adv payment, upfront charges of $3,161.51 and total cap reduction of $2,756.30 Total rebates: $1,750 (Since we are looking at leasing another BMW, they offered to take another $750 off, which is not included below) 36 months/15,000 miles $584.18 a month Options include: Cold weather Drivers assistance Lighting Walnut Navigation Thoughts??? We would greatly appreciate your ... Read More

  • Is this a good deal

    Written by: jwalls on Feb 26, 2013 7:23:07 PM

    2013 328i Black Sapphire Metallic, cold weather package (ZCW), premium package (ZPP), BMW Assist (6NL). MSRP 42,645...dealer offer $38,350 36 month lease with .00130 LMF....we will put down $5000 which will leave a balance of $26,866 at the end of the lease.....Dealer said the residual value is 63% Any information would be greatly appreciated...if you need more info hopefully I can provide it

  • Re: 2013 328i Lease Question [satch98]

    Written by: flightnurse on Feb 14, 2013 8:54:20 AM

    It appears that BMW is aggressively moving their coupes and convertibles since the new 4 series is due out soon. I'm sure since BMW contacted you, you are in a good position to deal...

  • new 328i from dealer

    Written by: newtooca on Feb 14, 2013 7:41:57 AM

    Hi all first time luxury car buyer...actually didn't had any car for last 5 year (living in nyc) ..... one dealer has given me quote for following car 2013 BMW 328i Sedan Jet black Premium Package BMW Assist MSRP: $42,000 37,500 + tax+ dmv Is this a good price? any help is appreciated... Dealer is offering this

  • Re: BMW 328i Sedan Deals [soapdish616]

    Written by: ironman123 on Feb 13, 2013 5:45:51 AM

    So there is a $1000 cash back offer good on the 2013 3-series in Feb?

  • BMW 328i Sedan Deals

    Written by: soapdish616 on Feb 10, 2013 10:19:01 AM

    I want to help people out who might be in the market for a 328i (2013) Sedan. Here are TWO deals that were offered to me yesterday (Chandler, Arizona). 2013 BMW 328i Sedan (12/20/12 build date) Alpine White / Venetian Beige Dakota Leather ZPP Premium Package 494 Heated front seats 4AB Dark Burl Walnut wood trim 508 Park Distance Control 609 Navigation system MSRP: $44,745 (including destination of $895) Offered @ ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

  • Re: New Ellps [nyccarguy]

    Written by: flightnurse on Jan 14, 2013 6:59:16 PM

    http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1081637_2013-bmw-320i-entry-level-luxury-star- ting-at-33445 I'll be at the Detroit Auto show this weekend, I'm hoping they have it there along with the new 320d.

  • Re: Got my car back [sweendogy]

    Written by: flightnurse on Dec 21, 2012 7:12:12 AM

    Currently there is no 328 sport Wagon imported to the US, I haven't seen anything saying that it will be imported for 2013, Chandler BMW says the X3 has taken the place of it, which I think is a bad move for BMW. They sell every single one of the wagons, people who want a wagon do not want a SUV...

  • Re: Got my car back [nyccarguy]

    Written by: flightnurse on Dec 20, 2012 8:02:49 AM

    It has peaked my interest to give a 4 cyl BMW diesel a chance (X1, X3, 3 series) assuming they are out when my lease is up in September 2014. Early spring of 2013 you will see a slew of 4 cyl Diesels from Audi, BMW and MB in their Q3 and Q5, X3 (not too sure of the X1) and 3 series, GLK and C class. VW will put their ... Read More

  • Re: 1st service loaner [habitat1]

    Written by: flightnurse on Dec 19, 2012 4:49:35 PM

    Why someone would pay MORE for a comparably equipped X5 3.5i is still beyond me. This is simple, there are people who do not associate BMW and diesel as going together, and to be bothered by wearing gloves when refueling.... As stated before, this will all change in 2013 when BMW, Audi and MB all bring over deisel power entry level cars and SUVs.

  • Re: Dealers Services [dino001]

    Written by: flightnurse on Dec 19, 2012 11:25:24 AM

    It certainly doesn't look that way in my experiences. Instant gratification seems to be most powerful motivator. It is strenghtened by dealer's incentives based on deliveries in next month. If you make an order to be filled two or three months from now This is the biggest issue when buying a car, most people wait until they need a car now, instead of planning for it. my neighbor bought a new ... Read More

  • Re: Dealers Services [dino001]

    Written by: habitat1 on Dec 19, 2012 2:02:16 AM

    but if there is grand or two of dealer incentive (not consumer rebate) expiring last day of current month, that is not going to be part of the equation in special order. Think that may be case by case. My BMW dealer claims I can get the same near invoice deal from them on a custom order BMW M3 if I order by 12/31 as they would be able to give ... Read More

  • Re: Dealers Services [robr2]

    Written by: flightnurse on Dec 18, 2012 11:07:57 AM

    Same thing can be said about BMW,s when one orders a 650 4dr coupe, costing 103K, I think they can afford to fly to Europe too. But the whole Ed program is about driving YOUR car in europe and having it shipped back.. The discount is nice too. The 7 series that we build was priced $83K, that was before the ED price, which was $5K less so $77K would have ... Read More

  • Re: 1st service loaner [habitat1]

    Written by: flightnurse on Dec 18, 2012 10:27:21 AM

    The reason why a 535d was not imported was simple, price. A fully loaded 535d would run close to $65K. The 335d was just something that BMW wanted to see if it would sell, it did, but BMW never fully suppoted it as far as ad time. BMW will be importing a diesel in the 3 series as well as X3 started in the first quarter of 2013, MB will be ... Read More

  • Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [sweendogy]

    Written by: habitat1 on Dec 14, 2012 3:49:30 AM

    The free maintence thing is laughable as an advantage. I'll buy my own wiper blades for 20 bux to save thousands any day. Not sure I follow you. In my comparative shopping of a new 2014 Cayman S vs. 2013 BMW M3, it looks like that in addition to a roughly $14k difference in actual purchase price between the two, the 4/50 free maintenance from BMW would cost roughly $3,500 on ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Starting Problems

  • Re: Trunk release issues [busiris]

    Written by: 55396 on Dec 8, 2012 3:22:07 PM

    "comparison between a 5 year old car with 44K miles (purchased used) and two other brand spanking new 2013 models." I went both ways. "Our 03 Avalon is more enjoyable around town." My wife says they both drive very nice, but are very different cars. I agree. BTW, the Avalon is 10 years old, never goes to the dealer, has not had one problem and NO rattles. If Japan can do ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • 2013 328 xdrive coupe

    Written by: mmenard on Nov 26, 2012 3:58:28 PM

    Hey carman, do you have the money factor and residual value for this car for a 36 mth lease, 10k miles? Does BMW have any special offers for this vehicle. They are advertising up to $3500 holiday incentive?

  • 2013 328 xDrive MSRP $47,095

    Written by: scorz on Nov 20, 2012 6:35:36 PM

    Purchased outright with: - $1000 USAA discount - $1000 finance incentive (3.29%, can pay off fully after 3 month, will accrue ~$150 in interest in 3 months) Total Price: $42,800 (9.1% off MSRP) - Technology Package - Cold Weather Package - Premium Package - Saphire Metallic Black Extras: - All weather mats included - Valet service included (will deliver loaner for scheduled service within 40 miles of dealer) - 2 BMW ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

  • Re: Not exactly a ELLPS.... [sweendogy]

    Written by: habitat1 on Nov 14, 2012 3:19:39 AM

    There is no M3 sedan, any more. BMW killed it for 2013 MY.

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • Re: 2013 328ix PRICING QUESTION [golfer21]

    Written by: fourthbmw on Nov 13, 2012 1:14:44 PM

    Sounds like its a 2013 335i.? I just purchased a 2013 335i 4 door last Thursday. I checked the rebates and found if you BMW finance a minimum of $7,500 you receive a $750 credit. Found out you only need to make 3 payments than can pay off without a penalty or loosing the 750.00 credit. I also received 1,000.00 credit due to the new loyalty program that came out last ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

  • Not exactly a ELLPS....

    Written by: habitat1 on Nov 13, 2012 11:20:25 AM

    ...but for anybody that may be thinking about a 335i that can find a little spare change in their sofa cushions, how about a brand new BMW M3 Coupe for under $59,000? Have to order the car by the end of November to get the extra $1,500 holiday credit. I just got a call from a dealer that offered to order a 2013 M3 at invoice. From that, subtract $1,500 holiday ... Read More

BMW F30 3-Series (2012+)

  • Re: 2013 328i xDrive [idoc2]

    Written by: busiris on Nov 12, 2012 11:37:58 PM

    The start/stop feature can be programmed by BMW to remain in the mode it was in as of the last time the car was driven. In other words, if you have the option disabled and turn the ignition "off", the next time the car is started, the start/stop feature will automatically be in the "off", or disabled, mode. After spending 2 weeks in a MB diesel in Germany in October that ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

  • Re: Taking Marketing to another level.... [billyperksii]

    Written by: habitat1 on Nov 6, 2012 5:58:07 PM

    Billy, I think you should enjoy your TL for a few more years. I'm at 8+ years and 63k on mine and it's still reasonably fun to drive. Made even more fun by beginning to teach my 17 year old daughter how to drive a stick. In the meantime, we can all pound BMW to put the 5 series on a much needed diet. No reason that a 550xi should weigh ... Read More

BMW F30 3-Series (2012+)

  • Re: Do you really think it will weigh less? [55396]

    Written by: 55396 on Nov 5, 2012 11:09:32 AM

    We tried out a 2012 528i. Didn't trip our trigger. Too much wing dip when whipping the wheel back and forth - Much more than the 2013 Lexus ES 350, and a very noticeable lag before downshift, again unlike the Lexus. Then we drive a 2008 528i. Ahh, that's what I expected in a BMW. Even with $12000 off, I will still look for a pre-2011.

  • 2013 328i xDrive

    Written by: idoc2 on Nov 5, 2012 9:55:16 AM

    I currently drive a 2007 328xi with 120K miles on it. I just test drove a 2013 328i Xdrive. Here are my overall impressions. 1) The new car is ever so slightly bigger in the rear seat with slightly more leg room. If you are between 5'8" and 6'2" you will be happier. If you are smaller than 5'8" it wont make a difference and if you are larger 6'2" its ... Read More

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  • Re: Nobody answered my question - EPS [nyccarguy]

    Written by: graphicguy on Oct 24, 2012 2:28:25 PM

    nyc.....the GF was all hot and bothered by the Benz C350 4Matic coupe when she was looking, before deciding on the S4. We test drove a totally loaded one.....black with tan interior (just like my 335i). It felt like a slug. Now, this was a 2012. I think the tech, build quality and materials were anything that wasn't met or exceeded by the BMW or the Audi. Maybe the 2013 is ... Read More

  • Re: 5000 [m6user]

    Written by: habitat1 on Oct 22, 2012 10:40:56 AM

    I think that is mostly correct, but it would be interested to see where all the weight is if you pulled a couple of cars apart. Here's three I'd start with: 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed manual: 3,001 lbs with 3.0 6 cylinder engine. Length 187.7 inches; width 69.3 inches. 2013 BMW 328i 6-speed manual: 3,360 lbs with 2.0 4 cylinder engine. Length 182.5 inches; width 71.3 inches. AWD/Automatic: 3,595 lbs. 2013 ... Read More

  • Re: 5000 [andres3]

    Written by: habitat1 on Oct 21, 2012 6:02:35 AM

    I feel compelled to point out, that, yes, but the TTRS has smoked the Cayman R (the fair comparison) around any track they've both been measured on, despite any weight disadvantages, or so-called "trouble with the curves." I feel compelled to point out that you're wrong: Nordschleife Lap Times As you can see scrolling down, the Audi TT RS Coupe is 8:09 and the (old) Cayman R was 8:06. But even ... Read More

  • Re: 5000 [ivan_99]

    Written by: habitat1 on Oct 20, 2012 5:34:16 AM

    3153 lbs isn't that bad. It is when it is attached to a their below entry level 211 hp engine. The fair comparisons are: Cayman S (320 hp) @ 2,976 lbs vs. TTS Coupe (265 hp) @ 3,219 lbs = +243 lbs; -55 hp Boxster S (315 hp) @ 2,910 lbs vs. TTS Roadster (265 hp) @3,394 lbs = +484 lbs; -50 hp 911S Coupe (400hp) @ 3,075 lbs vs. TT ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • Re: New Lease [fourthbmw]

    Written by: flightnurse on Oct 18, 2012 9:01:19 AM

    My mistake, my current BMW is a 2006 330i. I ordered the 2013 335i. Thanks for pointing it out. I think the 2006 330i is a very underrated car, good luck with the new one.

  • Re: New Lease [flightnurse]

    Written by: fourthbmw on Oct 18, 2012 6:06:20 AM

    "Rare No More" My mistake, my current BMW is a 2006 330i. I ordered the 2013 335i. Thanks for pointing it out.

  • Re: New Lease [fourthbmw]

    Written by: flightnurse on Oct 15, 2012 3:33:22 PM

    I ordered a 2013 330I sedan it left the plant and is ready for shipping. This will be a very rare BMW... With BMW now offering five lines of 3 series, each has it's own identity. So for the extra $1400 over the base 3 series, the Luxury model comes standard with Unique design touches include: Chrome kidney grille bars 18'' alloy wheels, multi-spoke design Black signature key fob with chrome ... Read More

  • Re: New Lease [dean1977]

    Written by: flightnurse on Oct 14, 2012 8:22:12 AM

    When I build your car on BMW website the price is $56,295.. BASE MSRP $46,800 Mineral White Metallic$550 Coral Red/Black Dakota Leather$0 This is part of the Premium package Dark Burl Walnut wood trim$0 M Sport Package$2,200 • 18" Light alloy Star-spoke wheels style 193M-with performance run-flat tires$600 • M Sports leather steering wheel with paddle shifters$100 Premium Package$2,000 STEPTRONIC automatic transmission$0 Not too sure if you want a stick or ... Read More

  • Re: New Lease [flightnurse]

    Written by: dean1977 on Oct 14, 2012 5:55:15 AM

    The buildout looks like this: 2013 BMW 335xi coupe--- $46,800 Metallic color white--- $550 M Sport Package-- $2200 Coral red dakota leather-- $1450 Premium Package-- $2000 BT with BMW Assist-- $650 Navigation-- $2150 Heated Seats-- $500 Keyless entry-- $500 Total is 56,800---they are discounting to 53500--thanks for your help

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  • Re: Reliability and Durability etc. [habitat1]

    Written by: flightnurse on Oct 10, 2012 11:54:01 AM

    The unions are not fully to blame for the demise of GM, Ford And Chrysler. But they have a big share of responsibility in the "culture" of mediocrity as you put it. Habit if you could place the blame on a scale (0-10), where would you place the auto workers blame? An 8? Last year when the Fox New channel in Detroit caught those Chrysler workers drinking and smoking pot on ... Read More

  • Re: Reliability and Durability etc. [markcincinnati]

    Written by: buya on Oct 10, 2012 1:04:20 AM

    To me, it's not an addiction. Those cars are better in comprehensive view. I drive and own German built cars only, and I thought it would be snobbish to rule out other cars. It's not. It's preference, just like some people like to hear the revving and roaring of their cars, and some prefer the quietness in their sports cars. I'm not particularly fond of MB, and I swore not to ... Read More

  • Re: Let me ask a question [habitat1]

    Written by: robr2 on Oct 7, 2012 7:32:38 PM

    Yet last week I drove a 2001 BMW M5 with 120,000 miles on the odometer that a friend just bought from the original owner. This car drives better, with fewer rattles, than any 2 year old Caddy sitting on your local dealer lot. The paint looks better than a brand new Caddy. That is true. But how will a 2013 BMW compare with a 2013 Cadillac in 10 years? Past performance ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • Re: Lease price BMW 335 conv [dashfb1]

    Written by: insidecarbuy on Oct 7, 2012 5:23:17 PM

    Hey Dashfb1, There are great incentives on the 335i convertible especially when your coming out of a BMW. I just helped a friend get a similar one as the one you're looking for. You can get this car for about $1,500 behind invoice minus the $750 loyalty and $300 first month payment waiver. (There is also an addition $1,000 if you took part in the BMW USA Drive Event over the ... Read More

  • Lease price BMW 335 conv

    Written by: dashfb1 on Oct 7, 2012 8:50:52 AM

    October 2012....I am looking at ordering a 2013 335i convertible. MSRP 56,785. What would a fair price be for a 36 month lease, with 12K miles and -0- cap (I will pay first month and inceptions at closing). I am in NJ, and am coming off a BMW 1 series lease, if that matters and I have excellent credit. Looking at BMW site, with current offer of $529 (10K miles) with ... Read More

  • Re: 2013 335xi sale price? [gurm]

    Written by: flightnurse on Oct 4, 2012 11:39:12 PM

    First if the dealer who was selling the 535i at 8500 off MSRP could not ship it to your local BMW good thing you walked from the deal.. There was a problem, second no one can tell you what to pay for the 335ix, each region is different, and different regions have different discounts. Since I do not know where you live, can answer your question, however, go to www.truecar.com this ... Read More

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  • Re: Saw the newest ELLPS... [habitat1]

    Written by: flightnurse on Sep 13, 2012 6:16:46 AM

    Habitat- the Escalate is just a suburban with bling, nothing extra was done to it and of course weren't built very well, can't use that as a comparison to a German built car. The reason why we got the Genesis at the price is the 2013 are rolling in, end of year, all manufactures are doing this, even BMW (with the 5 series). Currently here in Phoenix, BMW is offering $4500 ... Read More

  • It finally happened

    Written by: flightnurse on Sep 9, 2012 11:19:20 PM

    After months of looking and driving and fretting over a car, my partner FINALLY decided on one. Now, it's not a BMW, or Audi, or MB nor is it a Infiniti. However, the Infiniti M was scratched off his list very early. After an interesting week in Charlotte on my way home (have to love WiFi while flying) my partner tells me he finally chosen a car and will tell me ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • 2013 bmw 528xi price

    Written by: frank1961 on Sep 8, 2012 7:01:51 PM

    i got quote from dealer indicated $1000 over edmunds invoice price, the car is in process center, I deposit refundable $1000 credit card deposit, I requested dealer before sing the dotted line, I need see the original invoice, is this a good deal? thanks Frank

  • Picking up F30 tonight...

    Written by: todd_gaines on Aug 31, 2012 10:48:14 AM

    Picking up my F30 2013 tonight. Using 7 MSDs, team USA voucher and BMWCCA on a 12k year/3 year lease. MSRP $44,270. Dealer substantially discounted my car because of a BMW error in production. End result, I'm paying $400 a month for the lease.

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  • Re: BMW Engine Start\Stop [fedlawman]

    Written by: flightnurse on Aug 18, 2012 10:54:24 AM

    Fed, I believe it is on all Euro 3 series, from the 316 to 335d. I believe for 2013 all BMW;s will get it in Europe. Will be interesting to see how this feature will increase MPG on the big 760i's

  • Re: ELLPS [flightnurse]

    Written by: habitat1 on Aug 9, 2012 1:08:38 PM

    I am a BMW fan, as evidenced by our imminent pick up of an X5d in early September at the Performance Delivery Center in Spartanburg. And the 550i is a very nice car in many respects. But it could - and should - be better yet. The 550i 6MT weighs 4,350+ lbs, goes 0-60 in about 5.0 and gets 15/22 MPG. The CLS550 is 200 lbs lighter, goes 0-60 in 4.4 ... Read More

  • What about a little vitamin d?] [flightnurse]

    Written by: sweendogy on Aug 8, 2012 5:34:54 PM

    http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-bmw-m550d-xdrive-first-drive-review Love the looks

  • Re: Price creep [nyccarguy]

    Written by: habitat1 on Aug 5, 2012 5:36:49 PM

    I've been out of the car market (and off these forums) for a couple of years, but our recent decision to replace my wife's SUV brought me back. When we went to look at the MDX, the Acura dealer, seeing us arrive in my 2004 TL 6-speed, asked me if I wanted to test drive a new 2012 TL AWD 6-speed manual. I know all about BMW vs. Acura relative to ... Read More

  • Re: Price creep [robr2]

    Written by: nyccarguy on Aug 4, 2012 8:18:52 PM

    robr2 - I just priced out a 2013 F30 328xi sedan and kept the options to a minimum (Standard Paint, Leatherette, no sunroof). Lighting Package, HK Stereo, & Heated Front Seats. MSRP is $41,670. I know it could be ordered if that's what I really want. What BMW brings to the table as far as the base model goes does impress me. There's also a part of me that thinks like ... Read More

  • Re: Acura TL vs Acura TL [ivan_99]

    Written by: m6user on Aug 2, 2012 3:23:49 PM

    Yes, I would say so. $9k is about a 33% increase in price. A 2002 Toyota Camry LE was $19500. A 2012 Camry LE is $23400. About a 20% increase. The 2003 Audi A4 Quattro was $27500 and the 2013 version is $33400, or about a 21% increase. If one could consider the Camry as a "commodity" and use that as a baseline, it would seem BMW ELLPS has creeped substantially ... Read More

  • Re: Acura TL vs Acura TL [ivan_99]

    Written by: m6user on Aug 2, 2012 2:27:03 PM

    No, the starting price on a BMW RWD 325 in 2003 was about $27k and the starting price of the 2013 BMW RWD 328 is about $36k. That is approx $9000 difference and would constitute creep as they say.

  • 328i M6 and no sunroof Re: Acura TL vs Acura TL [flightnurse]

    Written by: rayainsw on Aug 1, 2012 6:00:46 PM

    'I wish I could buy a 328i with cloth seats, 6 spd manual like the Germans can, I have friends who don't want power windows, and sunroof (this is not an option on the 328i.) but BMW doesn't offer that here... I just built one on bmwusa.com with an M6 and no sunroof - cloth, I admit, not available here.... - Ray Happy with leather, DCT and a hole in the ... Read More

  • Re: Acura TL vs Acura TL [robr2]

    Written by: flightnurse on Aug 1, 2012 3:49:10 PM

    My point is that the consumers in this market slice have typically sneered at anything that didn't offer a 6 Could this just be the big marketing machine making people think that if it doesn't offer a bigger engine then it not a luxury car? It appears that both BMW and MB are slowly ditching their V12 engine in favor of a twin turbo V8. Ford took a big risk in ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

  • Re: 2013 328i ordered [vacarfan]

    Written by: jeffreyfu on Jul 26, 2012 7:45:38 AM

    Moritz BMW

  • Re: Ordered a 2013 [vinnyny]

    Written by: blueguydotcom on Jul 9, 2012 7:35:56 AM

    BMWCCA rebate = $500 on the 3 series, must be a BMWCCA member for 1 year before purchase of car. Good on ED. Team USA Voucher - event held at most BMW dealers where participants get $1000 off any BMW purchased before Oct 31, 2012 (some until 2013). USAA Discount - varies but on leases/finances BMW is $1000 off. Some say you can combine with other discounts. I'll find out in ... Read More

  • Re: Ordered a 2013 [blueguydotcom]

    Written by: vinnyny on Jul 9, 2012 6:29:42 AM

    Please elaborate on the "Team USA voucher" and 'BMWCCA rebate.' I'd like to know the amounts, eligibility, and timelines. I'd appreciate your providing the information because I've promised myself a BMW European delivery for years and I may finally get around to it this Christmas if the numbers work.

  • Re: Ordered a 2013 [nyccarguy]

    Written by: blueguydotcom on Jul 8, 2012 8:50:29 PM

    NYC - Actually, I wasn't impressed by the F30 at all. But my lease is up with my Mazda3 soon so I had little option. Another car must happen. Never liked my two e90s and one of them, a CPO, resulted in such a horrible outcome (hence the Mazda3) I left BMW for 3 years. C, G, IS, A4, TL are not viable cars for me from all my recent drives. ... Read More

  • Re: 2006 BMW 330i w/ Navigation [flightnurse]

    Written by: valueseeker627 on Jul 8, 2012 5:35:36 PM

    I'm really just looking for the best deal out there. I think this is close to the best price I've seen in a while but once the 2013s come out in 8 weeks, I might be able to get a 2007 for the same price with the same equipment. Although, I have to say this has the sport-premium package with Nav, not easy to find at this price.... Also, I'm intrigued ... Read More

  • Re: 2006 BMW 330i w/ Navigation [valueseeker627]

    Written by: kyfdx on Jul 8, 2012 9:47:28 AM

    Run-flats: The newer replacement run-flats are reported to have a much better ride than the older OEM tires.. Plus, you can always switch to non-runflats, if they bother you.. '06 330i sedan.. The best naturally-aspirated inline six that BMW ever put into a non-M 3-series... and, it was only available on the '06 model! 255 HP... that's a plus, not a negative.. 2013 model... the older the car, the less the ... Read More

  • Re: 2006 BMW 330i w/ Navigation [valueseeker627]

    Written by: flightnurse on Jul 8, 2012 8:36:21 AM

    there are many people who will say that the 2006 330 was the last of the "good" 3 series. Don't worry about the 2013's they wont effect the price as much as you think. Are you shopping for price or the best deal?

  • 2006 BMW 330i w/ Navigation

    Written by: valueseeker627 on Jul 8, 2012 7:45:17 AM

    Hi All, I am considering purchasing a 2006 BMW 330i with Nav. It has 85K miles and seems to be in good condition. The guy is asking $13,250 as his last and final price. What do you guys think of the deal? My concerns: Run Flat Tires can cause for a bumpy ride The 335i came out a year later (2007) and might make resale of my 330i harder in the ... Read More

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  • Re: Audi pics [graphicguy]

    Written by: driver100 on Jun 18, 2012 6:25:07 AM

    VW product, and he'd get my a supplier number for the discount they offer (6% off MSRP). I had that in my pocket. To be continued..... Great story GG. I can't wait to hear the rest. By the way, that is a beautiful car. I hope you print your story on sales frontlines too. Briefly, we were going to trade in my wife's 2008 335Xi BMW for a 2013 328 or ... Read More

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