2009 BMW 3 Series Consumer Discussions

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Brief (for me) Update

  Written by: markcincinnati on May 9, 2012 2:25:44 PM

  I have now reached 15,000 miles on my 2012 Acura TL Advance SH-AWD. I have had two oil changes and at the second change the SH-AWD "fluid" was changed (very expensive.) The tires have been rotated twice. I keep the tires cold inflated to: front 37, rear 35. I decided to stick with the somewhat crappy OEM tires that came with the car, since they are all-season UHP's and I wanted ... Read More

• Re: Brief (for me) Update [jeffm5]

  Written by: markcincinnati on May 10, 2012 10:14:46 AM

  I couldn't even begin to answer your question. Historically, Volvo's live very long lives -- and are expensive to maintain and repair like their German cousin's. Today, I would EXPECT, any car (virtually any) to make it to 150,000 miles with normal maintenance and a few repairs. Now then, the issue is what is the definition of normal maintenance? My wife's last BMW (a 2008) could only have an oil change ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Decisions, decisions

  Written by: jdt5 on Apr 24, 2012 10:45:34 PM

  Considering my first BMW CPO purchase. Debating which is the better deal... 2008- 335, 30K miles, ~$26K vs. 2009- 528, 50K miles, ~$25K. Struggling with warranty "head-room" vs. roominess and HP. Thoughts or suggestions appreciated.

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• CR and a couple of WORDS

  Written by: markcincinnati on Apr 13, 2012 11:33:55 AM

  I'm not exactly sure if CR is a publication that I would use as the basis for my automotive purchases. We've been down the "CR argument" path so many times before here on Edmunds, I would assume we don't need to go down it again. I must admit however, that I am not a subscriber but I have taken to reading CR's automotive tests and comments of late because of reading ... Read More

Opinions on Demo/Executive Cars?

• Re: Opinions on Demo/Executive Cars? [kirstie_h]

  Written by: secondlease on Mar 22, 2012 12:53:00 PM

  I leased bmw 528i with 7000 miles on it in 2009 and got a good deal on it. As long as it is within warranty, it really does not matter to me. It turned to be a good car with no issues at all. It supposed to end at june 2012. I returned to bmw dealer on 3/7/2012 for a 328xi, 2011 model, I was waived last three payments of 528i ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Prelude, TSX, BMW [qbrozen]

  Written by: plekto on Mar 8, 2012 9:43:22 AM

  the intermediate shaft failures have scared me off the Porsches. I really really wanted to get one this last time out ... just couldn't bring myself to take the risk. The reason for this is actually the oil. The engine was designed for high-zinc oils that are common in Europe and were judged to be minimally acceptable in the U.S. at the time. But the EPA drove the maximum levels to ... Read More

• Re: Dealer pricing [flightnurse]

  Written by: fedlawman on Feb 28, 2012 2:57:35 PM

  "You should be able to find a CPO 2009 off lease with less then 40K, which would increase the warranty to 100K for mid to low 20's." Based on the stickers I saw, I am very sure I cannot get a CPO 2009 335i for less than $30K. Fortunately, I'm not interested in a 335i. After driving it, I didn't like the response of the throttle. It's not turbo lag, per ... Read More

• Re: Dealer pricing [fedlawman]

  Written by: flightnurse on Feb 28, 2012 7:38:28 AM

  Fedman it appears that BMW and Porsche's had thier value much better then others. However, if you look at the base price for a new 911, you are talking 80K base... The CPO 335i for 40K seems about right, a fully loaded 335i is almost 60K. You should be able to find a CPO 2009 off lease with less then 40K, which would increase the warranty to 100K for mid to ... Read More

• Dealer pricing

  Written by: fedlawman on Feb 27, 2012 1:31:23 PM

  What is it with these dealers? I went to look at cars (BMW's first) over the weekend and honed in on a CPO 2009 335i coupe. It had nice equipment (leather, nav, etc.) and only 17,000 miles on the odo, but they were asking $40,000 (marked down from $45,000!). I know this car was probably $50,000 new, but really, only $10,000 less than a new one? I bet if I asked ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Speedometer Inaccuracy

• Re: odometer [bmwlemon]

  Written by: steveaccord on Jan 29, 2012 5:35:32 PM

  I am sure everyone is sleeping soundly on this topic, after all the last post goes back to 2009! That beside I do believe that assuming that the speedometer and the odometers are tracking their respective measure in a connected manner is just plain wrong. Odometers are set according to precise requirements defined by the department transportation and need to be calibrated according to actual mileage, hence the legal implications of ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: 528i 4 vs 6 cyl [shipo]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Jan 12, 2012 12:43:05 PM

  Great post -- I nominate it for "one of the great posts" awards (as if there is such an award.) If the new BMW turbo 4 is as smooth as the 4 that was in my 2009 A4, I would be delighted. Knowing how time and tide tend to mean incremental improvements are possible (because of the passage of time -- plus a stack of $100 bills), I would assume this ... Read More

• Re: Can we please get back to talking about the cars? [billyperksii]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Dec 16, 2011 2:10:50 PM

  I am guilty of being: Often wrong. . .but. . . Never uncertain. My "take" on Acura is based soley on what I read (in the present tense) and what I have read (previously.) I read, with a dubious eye, the Automobile magazine article wherein an Audi S4 was "tested against" an Acura TL SH-AWD. No way you say? I recall my initial reaction as, "yea, sure the two cars finished ... Read More

• Displacement replacements and other thoughts. . .

  Written by: markcincinnati on Dec 5, 2011 1:13:11 PM

  A friend of mine frequently uses the phrase: "There's no replacement for displacement." He is appalled at the number of cars that may offer more than 6 cylinders but rarely sell (or stock) anything other than "blown" I4's, I6's or V6's (both naturally aspirated and forced induction.) I tell him that there IS a replacement for displacement and that it is "volumetric efficiency." The 211HP 258 pound feet I4 in my ... Read More

• Re: 2012 TL SH-AWD [drive4show]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Nov 28, 2011 2:47:57 PM

  I have (correction, my wife and I have had) twenty-nine Audi's, three BMW's and two VW's since the mid 1970's. We currently have a 2011 Infiniti FX35 AWD Premium and a 2012 Acura SH-AWD Advance. The Acura, upon first test drive (in a day with several test drives over identical routes and speeds, etc) was "close to" a 2011 Audi S4 Premium+ without any additional options (that is, it did not ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Real World MPG

• 2009 135i

  Written by: tturbo on Nov 21, 2011 4:03:46 PM

  I drive a 2009 135i with a 3.0 twin turbo and a manual 6spd. It's not a 3 series, but uses the same engine and drive line as the 335i. I know have about 24K miles on it. I average 21-22MPG and that's pretty much year round in the Chicago area. I live in the suburban area and do not go to and drive to the city regularly. My commute is ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Graphicguy [flightnurse]

  Written by: sweendogy on Oct 10, 2011 6:00:41 PM

  how much maintance does the bmw need to make up the difference between the car vs a less priced car for it to be a "better value"? a dated article but interesting from a bmw site- i would take note at the costs associated on the last page with its prime competitors http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/03/27/do-you-buy-your-car-based-on-free-maintenance-- - program/ ">

• Japanese vs Germans

  Written by: markcincinnati on Oct 10, 2011 1:57:25 PM

  At the price point and at the "class" (ELLPS) we are talking about, the value leaders remain Infiniti and Acura. More content and by some definition, I'm sure, more car for the money when you're comparing Infiniti to BMW (which seems to be the comparison that "everybody" makes); I think I'll compare Acura to Audi, for the time being -- it seems somehow to work for me. The G37XS was a ... Read More

• Re: With Interest [billyperksii]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Oct 4, 2011 8:31:32 AM

  No, it takes one day to install the back-up sensors. I live in Cincinnati, the purchasing dealer (where I also purchased the sensors from, and incorporated them into the lease now that they can be capitalized) is in Columbus. 100 miles separate these cities. I travel EVERY Saturday to Columbus. The arrangement was this -- drop off the car, pick up the loaner, then pick up the car the following Saturday. ... Read More

• Re: Audi Drive Select

  Written by: markcincinnati on Oct 1, 2011 1:21:55 PM

  Short answer, no. At this point, an Audi A4 2.0T Prestige + SLine with everything on it except ADS would be a great car. I have ADS, I have, currently both a 2009 A4 Prestige + Sport Pakage (that has ADS) and a 2012 Acura TL Advance. In 2009 but not in 2011 or 2012 Audi A4 2.0T Prestige + Sport or SLine packages, I see less of a need for ... Read More

• A4, Acura, 3er

  Written by: nyccarguy on Sep 29, 2011 8:54:32 PM

  markincincinnati & graphicguy Funny how the 3 of us are at opposite ends of the financial spectrum in our lives, yet have similar tastes & tolerances when it comes to cars. The seats in my TSX is one thing that I absolutely LOVE! They are thickly bolstered, firm, & super comfortable. They do a fantastic job keeping my narrow, 150 lb rear end from sliding around during aggressive handling maneuvers. The ... Read More

• Re: In the market... [jerseyguy77] TSX

  Written by: markcincinnati on Sep 19, 2011 2:56:52 PM

  I wonder why you test drove the Acura TSX but not the Acura TL. I am no expert in this field, but it seems to me the TL probably compares "better" to an Audi A4, BMW 3, Cadillac CTS and Infiniti G (etc, etc). After having owned 29 Audis, I sent emails to dealers requesting quotes on an Acura TL "advance" AWD, an Audi A4 Prestige with sport package, an Infiniti ... Read More

• swap out of a G into a 335??

  Written by: sweendogy on Sep 10, 2011 6:41:58 PM

  its been a while since my last post- i have a 07g35x and i love it but have always wanted an awd sedan with a stick shift (g awd is auto only) and at the time when i bot it (in 2007) i could not justify buying the BMW 335xi for a cool 12grand more. The G had more HP, great styling and great driver set up with the nav and ... Read More

Buying a Used 3-Series

• Certified Preowned if Sold to 2nd dealer??

  Written by: breezley on Sep 9, 2011 7:01:34 PM

  I am consdering at 2009 that is at a local toyota dealership. When looking up on the VIN on car max I found that the following one person owned it then .... - it was offered for sale by a nearby BMW dealership as a certified PreOwned BMW. -then 5 days later it was sold at auction (Listed as a dealer vehicle Sold at auction) The Toyota dealership registered it after ... Read More

• Re: To xi or not to xi? [ronsteve]

  Written by: mattyfresh on Aug 5, 2011 9:47:52 AM

  ronsteve did you ever purchase a wagon? I'm in the same boat. I'm torn between a 2009-2010 Volvo V70 (non-XC) and a 2008-2010 BMW 3-Series wagon. Just wanted to see if you made a purchase. hope this finds you well matt

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: In the market... [littlejoe613]

  Written by: carnaught on Jun 10, 2011 9:47:54 PM

  You may have to do some more up-to-date research before commenting.......the resonant tailpipe tone on my G37 Coupe is intentional. The resale for my leased G37 is 56 percent which I understand is great for this segment. Hmm, I wasn't aware that I had to do "research" to your standards in order to comment here. Thanks for the advice but I've done the research....and, I owned a 2009 Infiniti coupe. While ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

• RFT

  Written by: jagost on Jun 6, 2011 8:37:33 AM

  I have own three BMW, the latest 2009 328. What is funny about BMW and Bridgestone run flat tire bull... is that surfing the web, you read articles dating back to Feb-July 2009 that the new Bridgestone 3rd generation run flat tires have been tested, and that all types of automobile magazine reps were on hand and noted great improvements driving BMWs with run flat tires etc.... Now it is June ... Read More

Buying a Used 3-Series

• Re: 2009 328xi - good deal? [arctic56]

  Written by: sirius9 on May 13, 2011 7:12:46 AM

  It seems to have xenon, keyless, sunroof, cold weather package and some components of premium - lumbar, power adjust, memory seating--not sure on the leather though. It's not CPO'd cuz it's not a BMW dealer--that's my guess. My hesitation with the mileage is someone racked up ~18k a year since they had it (it's only 2 years old)--this shouldn't be a consideration? I have to drive 1.5 hours to get to ... Read More

• Re: 2009 328xi - good deal? [sirius9]

  Written by: arctic56 on May 13, 2011 6:14:39 AM

  You don't mention how it is equipped, so it is hard to comment on price. The mileage should be of no concern. I always wonder why some are CPO'd and some are not. It is typically determined by a calculation of what it will cost to bring it to CPO level versus what the will be able to sell it for. It is also determined by how much they have to ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• 2009 328xi - good deal?

  Written by: sirius9 on May 12, 2011 10:57:03 PM

  Looking at a 2009 328xi automatic black/black sedan with 36k miles for ~$25k (not including tax). Clean carfax, 1 owner, had maintenance at 20k miles and 35k miles. Hesitant cuz of the mileage - thoughts? Anything I should look for specifically when I check it out? TIA. p.s. - Carfax shows floor mats were installed twice at the beginning of the life of the car for some reason. Non-CPO cuz it's ... Read More

Buying a Used 3-Series

• 2009 328xi - good deal?

  Written by: sirius9 on May 12, 2011 10:55:05 PM

  Looking at a 2009 328xi automatic black/black sedan with 36k miles for ~$25k (not including tax). Clean carfax, 1 owner, had maintenance at 20k miles and 35k miles. Hesitant cuz of the mileage - thoughts? Anything I should look for specifically when I check it out? TIA. p.s. - Carfax shows floor mats were installed twice at the beginning of the life of the car for some reason. Non-CPO cuz it's ... Read More

• Re: Used 2009 328xi 28K good deal? [sirius9]

  Written by: arctic56 on Apr 3, 2011 3:33:11 PM

  Okay, "a wholesaler?" only BMW dealers offer CPO cars, so that answers that question. It is possible that the dealer that took the car back off of lease either didn't want the car or had already completed his quota of CPO's. As I understand it, BMW dealers have to do X amount of CPO's to meet a quota. BMW finance is who drives this because they make the dealer buy them ... Read More

• Re: Used 2009 328xi 28K good deal? [sirius9]

  Written by: roadburner on Apr 3, 2011 3:06:25 PM

  I've read lots of mixed reviews on run-flats...it's going to be my first experience with them. Can I use a penny to check the wear like any other tire? Do you know how much they should run me? Just fit regular tires when the RFTs wear out. Just buy a Continental or BMW mobility kit(electric air pump and sealant) and keep it in the trunk.

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: Should I buy this 2009 335i Convertible [puffin1]

  Written by: puffin1 on Mar 12, 2011 8:23:40 AM

  I bought my first BMW in the seventies I took a trip to Germany arranged by a friend who owned a dealership.I drove it and it was called a Gray Car as it didn't pass U.S. emissions. Someone on here can correct me, I got the car and had it converted to meet USA emission specs. I saved alot of money as I put 3500 miles on it in Europe. Anyhow, ... Read More

• Re: Should I buy this 2009 335i Convertible [bond007jb]

  Written by: busiris on Mar 1, 2011 12:11:46 PM

  I'm going along with Roadburner in his analysis. BMW's are not cheap cars to maintain, and if you take ownership (even at what seems to be a good price today) of one that has been "raw-hided", I can almost guarantee you will rue the day you signed the paperwork. The brake changes by themselves indicate severe treatment, and if you add in the poor interior quality... Also, the length of the ... Read More

• Re: Should I buy this 2009 335i Convertible [bond007jb]

  Written by: roadburner on Mar 1, 2011 8:42:43 AM

  I'd pass; the brakes should last upwards of 50,000 miles. The oil should have been changed at @ 15,000 miles. And I seriously doubt that the car was tracked -at a BMW CCA HPDE at least- as CCA requires that droptops have a permanently attached hardtop AND a roll bar. The condition of the interior also speaks volumes; a car with a pristine interior and immaculate bodywork may have neglected mechanicals, ... Read More

• 335xi or a4 3.2L

  Written by: rwolff on Jul 29, 2009 5:12:09 AM

  I've been looking to but a new used car and trade in my 2000 Audi A4 2.8 quattro. Narrowed it down to two choices: a 2009 Audi A4 3.2L quattro Premuim Plus with 19K miles, original warranty good until August 2013, can be had for $25K with my trade. Impressed with the ride, braking and acceleration, and lots of room all around. The other is a 2007 BMW 335xi with 15K ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: True Cost to Own 335i [pdude1]

  Written by: dan12 on Jan 10, 2011 8:02:58 PM

  I have a 2007 335i and just had the HPFP replaced. It took over a week because they couldn't get the software updated. They finally had to replace the CCC (not sure what it's called, but I think it's the central computer board). Got it back tonight and it's perfect. I guess I am somewhat lucky because the fuel pump lasted 48K miles. I am hoping that it's now fixed. I ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Trying to decide.... TL? G37? other? [dap2006]

  Written by: plekto on Oct 30, 2010 12:49:39 PM

  I will mention, though, that the new CTS is worlds better than anything Mazda makes. It's positioned in Europe as a BMW 5 series competitor at a lot less money. My parents just went through this exact same scenario. And had it down to the same models are you are looking at. And the CTS just simply was a superior product to the Infiniti. The only vehicle that gave it serious ... Read More

• BMW 3 runflats [shipo]

  Written by: rayainsw on Sep 29, 2010 5:11:30 AM

  ‘. . . almost immediately chuck the RFTs in favor of a good set of GFTs, a move that will knock another 25 pounds of weight off the car).’ Have you driven a 2011? Not having driven a 335 since I bought what I have now, I was rather impressed with the ride in 2 335iS [ coupes ] that I have recently driven – both with 19” runflats. I have ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• 2009 Ford Escape XLT for a 2007 BMW 328xi

  Written by: mjm87 on Sep 15, 2010 6:40:26 PM

  So I currently own a 2009 Ford Escape XLT with 7500 miles on it. It has custom leather, spoiler, sync, and is an I4 4WD vehicle. The car is fully paid off and nothing is owed on it. I am considering selling/trading in my Escape for a CPO 328xi. I am hoping to get as close as I can to an even swap, but I know that will be unlikely. The ... Read More

Buying a Used 3-Series

• Have always wanted a BMW 3 series

  Written by: mjm87 on Sep 8, 2010 11:58:31 AM

  So long story short is I received a 2009 Ford Escape XLT with all the bells and whistles as a college graduation gift last July. I am now the owner of the vehicle. It has only 7500 miles on it. As you can see I don't drive many miles. I wanted to know if it would be best to wait to buy a certified pre-owned 3 series or consider purchasing one ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• HOST: Pleaase add G37 and G25 to list

  Written by: jtla on Aug 13, 2010 1:53:24 PM

  Current list of vehicles for this thread include: BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G35, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Lexus IS 250, Audi A4, Acura TSX. The G35 has been replaced with G37 since 2009 model year. Now that G25 is unveiled and, given the fact that both IS350/250, 328/335, and TL/TSX are on the list, both G37 and G25 should also be added. Thanks in advance.

Buying a Used 3-Series

• How does CPO work?

  Written by: bmw_gss on Aug 21, 2010 10:12:25 AM

  Hi - I am a little confused on how the CPO works? My understanding is CPO in generak is 6 years/100K miles. So, if I buy a CPO 2009 car which originally had warranty till 2012 , does the CPO start from 2009 (ie date of service) or from 2012 once the original warranty expires? Alternatively, is it a good option to buy a non CPO car and then get extended ... Read More

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: will the real SLim Shady please stand up [sweendogy]

  Written by: marcus216 on Aug 11, 2010 12:26:08 PM

  I respectfully disagree regarding performance of the TL against other premium performance sedans. My neighbor has a 2009 BMW 535 IX and I have driven his car and he has driven mine. Acceleration in a bit better in the BMW, but not much and my TL handles almost as well as his BMW. Now, am I saying that the TL is a better performing car, no. But it is fairly close. ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Ride Quality

• Re: Run Flats- Potenza's Wear [shipo]

  Written by: bigkev on Aug 16, 2010 6:20:49 AM

  Fair comment - It's my fault. Between us my wife and I have had 2 C Class Mercedes, both of which were very uncomfortable and riddled with electrical and computer faults, (13 times in 2 years) a new 2009 Audi A4 which spent more time in the shop than on the road due to steering rack problems (shudder) and continuously stalling and which got traded on the BMW, which I grant ... Read More

Rust on Wheel Drums : 335i

• Rust on Wheel Drums : 335i

  Written by: yuv on Aug 11, 2010 3:28:17 PM

  I have a 2009 BMW with 2,900 miles on it and keep it in a garage. My problem is with the rust on the wheel drums. When I took it in for maintenance, I was informed that I should expect the rust since I live close to the ocean. I am planning to push back, but want to know if anyone else has experienced this.

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: who will be the next to step up?? [sweendogy]

  Written by: ivan_99 on Aug 3, 2010 12:58:55 AM

  Your C&D Link was cut off... http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparisons/09q2/2009_infiniti_g37_vs._bmw_3- 28i_audi_a4_and_acura_tl-comparison_tests

• Re: who will be the next to step up?? [maxima03]

  Written by: sweendogy on Aug 2, 2010 5:18:23 PM

  i think automobile mag as a joke in declaring the TL a close auto to the S4 -sure you can save $$ but its not the same performer-- please look at every other credible magazine before making the TL out to be a winner- here are a few links to check out http://www.insideline.com/infiniti/g37/2009/comparison-test-2009-acura-tl-sh-awd- -vs-2009-infiniti-g37-journey.html here it just on par with the VWCC http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/comparison/2009-acura-tl-sh-awd-vs.-2009-volks- wagen-cc-3.6l-4motion/page_4_-_2009_acura_tl_sh-awd_vs._2009_volkswagen_cc_3.6l_- 4motion_page_4 and here it gets beat by ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2009 335i Convertible 44,900 [bond007jb]

  Written by: kyfdx on Aug 1, 2010 1:05:41 PM

  The sad truth is that accident/paint work on late model BMWs really hurts the resale value.. I'd also be worried about possible future structural issues with the folding hardtop (which already looks complicated, enough). If the lower price resulted in a great lease deal, I'd go ahead with no qualms... but, if you think you might sell that car in the next four years, then the paint work will hurt your ... Read More

• Re: 2010 BMW 335 [bobmr1]

  Written by: ckreling on Jul 31, 2010 10:49:42 AM

  Around August last year I purchased a 2009 328i Coupe at 2400 below invoice. Concord BMW, CA.

BMW 3-Series Maintenance and Repair

• How do you disable the smart key?

  Written by: kingkhalas on Jul 21, 2010 2:00:54 PM

  I've got a 2009 BMW M3 sedan. i'd like to disable the smart key while I go surfing, leave the key fob in the car, and just take the small metal key to keep in my shorts while I'm in the ocean. My old 2008 prius had a button under the steering wheel which would proximity sensor for unlocking the doors. Is this possible with the BMW key?

• Repairs after warranty expires

  Written by: michele16 on Jun 2, 2010 8:20:03 PM

  I have a 2005 BMW 325CI that has approximately 60,000miles on it. My vehicle was covered under the 4 year maintenance warranty but this expired in 2009 and so have had all the past maintenance and repair work at the dealership. The fan clutch and the front lower controller bushings need to be replaced. I have been quoted $463 for the fan clutch repair and $820 for the controller bushings. Is ... Read More

Buying a Used 3-Series

• Leasing a CPO

  Written by: vinayg1 on Jul 9, 2010 8:27:06 AM

  I am thinking of leasing a 2009 328i CPO. I have a few questions, which I am hoping that some knowledgable people could answer. 1. Does BMW Finance lease CPO? I read on their web-site that they do, but I would like some confirmation before I explore more into this option. 2. Assuming they do, is the rate (i forgot the technical term) they use to calculate the payment on new ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

• Re: new bmw owner need help w/ tires [xeye]

  Written by: scubachic on Jul 1, 2010 7:30:21 PM

  Hey there. I was wondering the same thing....I just purchased a 2009 BMW 335 convertible hardtop with run flat performance tires. I live in Missouri, but it does occasionally snow/ice here. Will I still be able to get to work? Does anyone else have a comment? the above is the only positive comment about the tires I've seen. I'm trying to decide if I should get different tires now, or try ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Purchased 2009

  Written by: silentcrs on Jun 19, 2010 6:54:37 PM

  Purchased the following for $29K. Good deal? http://www.morristownbmw.com/used-cars-details.aspx?year=2009&maker=BMW&_model=3- %20Series&make=7&model=49&style=308086&vk=1060616

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Help for the weary [slance66]

  Written by: plekto on May 23, 2010 9:17:37 PM

  The previous generation CTS is a lot less ugly than the new one and would be my pick, then. The pearl white and light blue are very nice and are aimed at female buyers. YOU might not like the CTS, but your wife probably will love it after a test drive after her old car she's been suffering with. I know this as my mother is looking for the exact same ... Read More

Acura TSX vs Lexus IS250 vs BMW 325xi vs Honda Accord

• Acura TSX vs Lexus IS250 vs BMW 325xi vs Honda Accord

  Written by: moosey2010 on May 14, 2010 12:12:39 PM

  I am a 24 yr old female graduating college in one week. Currently, I'm in the market to buy my first car. For the past 6 years, I've been driving a 2003 VW Passat which is owned by my parents. For as long as I can remember, I've wanted a 3-series BMW. Every time I see one on the road, my palms get sweaty and my heart starts to race - ... Read More

BMW 335i vs Infiniti G37

• BMW Auto

  Written by: r34 on Apr 30, 2010 8:34:14 PM

  The BMW automatic transmission will learn your driving style too. The free maintenance seems to be great but the dealer only follows the much longer scheduled maintenance preset in the car (15K for an oil change!) I have a 2006 A4 3.2. I test drove the G (a 2008 so it's probably a G35X, not a G37X) before I got a 335xi. The Audi transmission is smooth if you accelerate continuously. ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• BMW 2009 335 convertible

  Written by: debart97 on Apr 18, 2010 5:12:35 AM

  I just purchased a brand new left over 2009 335 convertible. It has convenience pkg plus some other options. Sticker read 56,000. I paid 46,000 minus my trade. The dealer is in south florida. How much lower could I have gotten the car. Not good at bargaining.

BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

• Bridgestone 3G Tire Availability

  Written by: xeye on Apr 9, 2010 3:34:06 PM

  Hi all, I've ordered a new 2011 335i xDrive to replace my '07 335xi. I have ContiProContacts on the 335xi, but it's pot luck, sadly, what I get on the new version. I have 28,000 miles on the current set with not a single issue. I have heard 'not-bad' things about the 3G version of the Bridgestone RFTs. I like the idea of the RFT and I've not had any bad ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• 2009 335i

  Written by: carnut66 on Apr 6, 2010 12:44:16 PM

  I just got a quote on a 2009 BMW 335i, never titled, 800 miles on it with an in-service date of 11/03/09. Options: Sport Package Premium Package Cold Weather Package Ipod USB Adapter Titanium Silver w/ Black Dakota 6-Speed The dealer is quoting $38,900 - is this is a good deal or do I have more room for negotiation? Any comments are appreciated. Thanks!

BMW 335i vs Infiniti G37

• Re: 2010 G37xS [gunshotwound]

  Written by: srs_49 on Apr 2, 2010 8:06:44 AM

  Before settling on the 2009 G37S (with the 6MT) back in the fall, I also looked at the BMWs and a Subie WRX (not the STi). My wife thought the Subie was a bit of a boy racer for someone my age. That, plus the fact the one I test drove started to develop some engine noises which really didn't inspire confidence. Also, the interior was a bit spartan compared to ... Read More

BMW 3 Series iPod Integration Options

• Re: Factory 6FL Option [rv65]

  Written by: nlz335 on Mar 23, 2010 3:31:46 PM

  I just bought my BMW 335i 2009. I'm having problems with iPod on the iPhone integration problems. The AUX input wortks fine but the USB doesn't work. I have the genuine cable from BMW. It loads, the playlist and track list but, NO VOLUME what so ever :( Anyone seen this problem??

Bluetooth and the 3-Series

• Re: Does the bluetooth generally work well? [taxesquire]

  Written by: nlz335 on Mar 23, 2010 3:28:05 PM

  I just bought my BMW 2009 335i. I'm trying to use my iPhone 3GS, having volume issues. I can hear the caller very well but the caller can't hear me well. Not sure if it is the problem with BMW bluetooth or the iPhone?? Does anyone have the same issue?

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2009 328i? [kaliforniak]

  Written by: mrbimmer1 on Feb 27, 2010 9:53:00 AM

  I bought a 2009 328i with Auto, heated seat, silver metallic paint. MSRP was $36,800. Price paid was $29,830 plus tax and license. Dealer was VOB BMW in Rockville, Maryland. Good luck.

• Re: Good Deal [mohanp]

  Written by: mrbimmer1 on Feb 27, 2010 9:41:53 AM

  I bought my 328i from VOB BMW in Rockville , Maryland. Sorry that I haven't checked this forum for awhile and did not see your post. So far, the car drives great especially in Sports mode. Not sure how many 2009 still left. But you can check on their inventory on line. Just search on google for the dealer's website. Good luck.

• Re: Just Purchased 335i 2009 [mohanp]

  Written by: doanmquang on Feb 18, 2010 7:53:03 PM

  Hi Mohanp, I bought the car at Athen BMW. It is about 50 miles of Atlanta. I hope that help!

Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

• Re: Reliability – A8 Brakes [kdshapiro]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Feb 18, 2010 2:55:19 PM

  And that's what makes the world go round! This time, however, you might at least test drive the S4 and the 335 back to back, considering this one time Audi's S4 did win the C&D comparo over the Bimmer. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparisons/09q4/2010_audi_s4_vs._2009_bmw_3- 35i-comparison_tests Just a thought.

• Re: Reliability – A8 Brakes [rayainsw]

  Written by: markcincinnati on Feb 18, 2010 10:51:03 AM

  As far as I recall, my brake issues were with two 4.2V8 equipped A6's, although I could tell you a story or two about all the parts that had to be replaced on my ONE, new 1997 A8 -- in pearl white, gawd it was purty. But, out of 29 Audis, well, it is like watching the Exorcist 128 times in a row, "It just keeps gettin' better every time!" Seriously, ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Run Flat Tires

• Re: New Bridgestone tires [jagost]

  Written by: johnsam on Feb 17, 2010 9:11:27 AM

  Great Article. Bridgestones not too highly rated by Consumers Reports Mag. (See November 2009 issue) ALL-SEASON: Rated 19th out of 23 tested. PERFORMANCE ALL-SEASON: Did not even rate out of 14 tested. : WINTER: Rated 7th out of 17 tested. (not bad but I rarely drive in snow, As far as RFTs tested against RFTs, Bridgestones came in 11th out of 14 also recently tested by Con. Reps. No other RFT ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: how about this offer? (2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i) [akju]

  Written by: lowballer7 on Feb 13, 2010 8:53:32 AM

  Akju, Sorry for late reply. Yes, the price out the door after the $2,500 rebate (towards down payment, and added to my down payment), was $39,800, before interest on my payments (60 month loan at 3.9%). What did you end up getting?

• Re: how about this offer? (2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i) [nyccarguy]

  Written by: lowballer7 on Feb 13, 2010 8:41:51 AM

  nyccarguy, thanks! I love the car. It was a factory-owned executive driven car, so it was never registered to anyone. That makes me feel better, and the price cannot be beat for all the features.

• Re: Just Purchased 335i 2009 [jtla]

  Written by: doanmquang on Feb 2, 2010 4:34:41 AM

  Thanks! I pick the right time and date to call the Athen BMW, GA dealer since yesterday is the last day of the Marketing support ended. The negotiation deal was on the chat line and over the phone and it took one hour to finish the all the paper work and we drove out. The salesman are very friendly and no hassle like any other dealer before. I am very happy ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: BMW repurchased my 2008 335i due to HPFP [rfl]

  Written by: jmaroun on Feb 1, 2010 9:27:02 AM

  I certainly understand and agree on your conerns about safety. It's sad that BMW has allowed this to occur for so long from the very beginning of production way back in 2006 till today. I've read posts on m3post.com of people with 09's and even 2010 335s..with HPFP failures. I told the BMW representative in October of 2009, that I'd be willing to keep the 335 if they redesigned the fuel ... Read More

BMW Bids Bangle Begone

• Re: heading downmarket [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: pp2009pp on Jan 30, 2010 8:28:20 PM

  "Perhaps we are on the cutting edge of yet another breaking trend, that firms like BMW should seriously contemplate---why build cars in the US that are in direct collision with speed laws? " How about in direct collision with gas usage? My BMW 2009 X3 gets 14-15 mpg and it is small for an SUV. I heard that the 5-series Gran Turismo is as large as a 7 series. Isn't that ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: Good Deal [jazzyjeff1]

  Written by: jtla on Jan 28, 2010 11:48:59 AM

  That's a vast difference from your original post. "Fully loaded and $30k out the door" sounded like a steal to me. But now, a $42k 328i is hardly fully loaded, and $31,500 pre tax and everything is no bargain for a car with 16k miles on the clock -- given the current BMW promotion on 2009 leftovers. IMO, it is a fair price at best.

BMW 3-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Any feedback on the 2010 328i? Romboggie and Mr. Shiftright-please note

  Written by: ursamajor on Jan 24, 2010 2:19:16 AM

  One disconcerting occurrence: I had an annual service, with the "full computer scan" 20 days prior to the engine light warning coming on Jan 1. Amazing that the BMW dealer couldn't detect the longer crank time, and other early waning signs. They seem to be totally dependent upon what the computer tells them. Yes, they replaced the fuel pump promptly the next morning, but do any of the authorized garages really ... Read More

• Re: Mr. Shiftright--are 2010 328i models prone to failure? [ponytrekker]

  Written by: romboggie on Jan 23, 2010 7:46:04 AM

  There may not be a HPFP on the 328 but I had a fuel issue that sounds very similiar to ursamajor. I was driving my 2009 328i and the engine went into limp mode. The shop told me that it was a fuel issus and a part had to be replaced.and that it is a common defect on the 328i. The fact that we are having a conversation about new BMW ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• lease vs buy

  Written by: bonnejo3 on Jan 23, 2010 7:40:30 AM

  Hey all - I am just starting evaluating lease vs purchase and was curious about what others here may have been able to negotiate for the following (I am in Atlanta BTW): 335i (09 or 10) sedan 15k per year (3 year) for lease option navigation M Sports package iPod and USB adapter Logic7 sound system with Surround Sound and Digital Sound Processing (Not sure what the premium package really adds ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Mr. Shiftright--are 2010 328i models prone to failure?

  Written by: ursamajor on Jan 22, 2010 7:48:50 PM

  I am in the midst of a negotiation with N.A. to cancel my 36mo. lease on a 2008 335xi after HPFP replacements in Dec. 2008 and Dec. 2009, with low mileage. After considering Audi A4, Infiniti G37 and Acura, I returned to the possibility of replacing the lemon with a non-turbo engine 2010 328i, as the turbo may be the primary source of most of the HPFP problems. One owner on ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Bought 328i

  Written by: mrbimmer1 on Jan 21, 2010 6:29:43 PM

  Bought a 2009 328i last Saturday from VOB Rockville Maryland. It had 8 miles on the odometer. Mfg date was 5/12/09. VOB was the only local dealer that had a sparsely optioned car I wanted. The other dealers had mostly loaded cars that I really don't needed. MSRP $36,800. Out of door: $29,870 + tax only, Plus a $95 tag transfer fee which they said is for the state for registration ... Read More

BMW 335i vs Infiniti G37

• Re: 335 Sedan Vs G37S Sedan [jmaroun]

  Written by: sjaieve on Jan 8, 2010 12:41:15 PM

  Impressive post. My list of 6 was used as well here and we agree for the most part. That list was meant to highlight that its not just HP that drives the purchase of a G37 but I am happy that you saw what I see:) On handling, I try not to say much about what I think, it can be perceived as "make believe" however allow me to post something ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: If you want to stay with the BMW 3 Series, [ursamajor]

  Written by: romboggie on Jan 7, 2010 9:00:00 PM

  My HPFP happened on my 2009 328i so I think the problem is across the board. I am driving scared now hoping that I don't get stranded again. When my lease is up, I am going to get out of the 3 series family and purchase a 5 series.

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: how about this offer? (2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i) [lowballer7]

  Written by: nyccarguy on Jan 7, 2010 7:57:57 AM

  WOW! That's a fantastic deal on a sick car (except its an automatic). Congratulations!

• Just took delivery of '10 335i xDrive Coupe

  Written by: bobp7 on Jan 6, 2010 1:56:27 PM

  The best suprise of the entire sales process was how pleasant it was working with the dealer. I had expected the ususal battle but starting discussions a couple months before lease expiration helped ease the transition. Dealer was Ray Catena Westchester BMW in White Plains, NY. Everybody was helpful from the salesman to the sales manager to the general manager at any given time during the process. The deal was part ... Read More

• Re: how about this offer? (2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i) [lowballer7]

  Written by: akju on Jan 6, 2010 12:10:16 PM

  lowballer7, Thanks a lot for your nice suggestion. I will call the dealer to ask for details! btw, so you actually paid $39800 finally, right? or you just only paid $39800-$2500? I am a little confused about the rebate.

• Re: how about this offer? (2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i) [akju]

  Written by: lowballer7 on Jan 6, 2010 8:38:59 AM

  Akju, I forgot to add: Check www.kbb.com for blue book value. Price it as a used car even if sold as new. Add miles and as may options as possibe. If price is below "private party value", that's a good price.

• Re: Cash Incentive/Programs [hblatt1]

  Written by: lowballer7 on Jan 6, 2010 8:24:34 AM

  HBlatt1, Are you saying that the rebate for a 2009 335i is in fact $2,500, and not $1,500? When I bought my 2009 335i last saturday, the finance manager made it look like a "mistake" in my favor when he added a $1,000 to the downpayment to make it $2,500! He was trying to sell me the 2 year extension on the maintenance, and I kept refusing. I felt so good ... Read More

• Re: how about this offer? (2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i) [akju]

  Written by: lowballer7 on Jan 6, 2010 8:06:30 AM

  Akju, It depends on how many miles, and condition. Last Saturday, I got the following: 2009 black sapphire BMW 335i, saddle brown interior, excellent condition, 6300 miles Options: Sport, premium, xeon w/ adaptive headlights, comfort access, steptronic, sat radio, Ipod, bluetooth, fold-down rear seats MSRP: 50,620 Price before tax, license, etc: 37,995 Price after tax, license, regis, 2,500 rebate toward down payment, and before interest: $39,800 I think I stole that ... Read More

• how about this offer? (2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i)

  Written by: akju on Jan 6, 2010 7:08:21 AM

  HI, guys I am new to here and hope to get some suggestions. Today I got a email from a dealer and he offer me this: 2009 Black Sapphire BMW 335i Loaded with Sport Package, Sunroof, Steptronic, Sat Radio, IPOD, Bluetooth MSRP: $46,920 Sale Price: $38,445 Savings: $8475! is this a deal or not? can I still negotiate with him? thanks!

• Re: 2010 328i sedan w/ hard to find combo of options, what is true invoice? [truthseeker825]

  Written by: lowballer7 on Jan 4, 2010 12:08:54 PM

  Regarding invoice, I was also told 6.9% below sticker (MSRP) by one dealer in Los Angeles, but 2 other dealers told me 6% below. I strongly believe it's around 7%, and not any less. Some BMW dealers just have a higher markup, and one sales girl admitted it to me. After I offered a fair price, she quoted me at least $1,100 more than other dealers! Later, she found out I ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Warranty on fuel pumps extended to 10yrs. /120K miles

  Written by: ursamajor on Jan 3, 2010 9:19:34 AM

  The letter from BMW of North America, which I am reading, is undated, but I believe was received around Feb. 2009. This problem had been prevalent for at least two years prior to the letter's issuance. There has not been a recall. Such decisions are made, I am now quite certain, by the NHTSA, a Federal agency. I agree with those who think the problem should have been remedied through engineering, ... Read More

BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: Advice needed on BMW 328 pricing [jtla]

  Written by: kandada_boggu on Jan 1, 2010 2:11:50 AM

  I bought the car from BMW of Fremont CA. I did the initial round of negotiations via email and final round through phone. By the time I visited the dealership, I had the confirmed price. At the dealership I just had to sign the papers and pickup the car. Posts in this forum helped me to form a good starting price for my negotiations. I guess the dealer was eager to ... Read More

• Re: How much off invoice for new 2009 BMW 328i conv? [websalesbmw]

  Written by: jetm on Dec 28, 2009 9:54:01 PM

  Websalesbmw, Thanks for the response. But I don't understand your statement. Why would a dealer try to hold on to a 2009 328i when 2010 is days away and the $1,500 rebate is nearly gone? And BMW has already said that their support to dealers for moving 2009 inventory will be limited. If I were a dealer I'd be looking to move the 2009 models before Jan 4...even if it were ... Read More

• Re: How much off invoice for new 2009 BMW 328i conv? [ckreling]

  Written by: jetm on Dec 28, 2009 9:41:29 PM

  That sounds like a great deal...I think the Coupes are in greater supply so it may be easier to negotiate a better deal on them. Or you may just be a great negotiater. Congrats. Regards, Jammer

• Re: How much off invoice for new 2009 BMW 328i conv? [websalesbmw]

  Written by: jetm on Dec 28, 2009 9:37:29 PM

  All, Thanks for everyone's input on my questions. I in turn wanted to share an update on my situation.... Well I bought a fully loaded 328i covertible on Sunday! Here is the deal I got.... MSRP: $55,225 Invoice: $50,830 TMV: $49,167 My offer: $49,200 Dealer Response: $49,890 Price Paid: $49,500 ($1330 under invoice). I'm sure I could have ground them more but I was okay with $49.5K. Regards, Jammer

• Re: How much off invoice for new 2009 BMW 328i conv? [jetm]

  Written by: websalesbmw on Dec 28, 2009 6:20:33 PM

  Hi jetm...I couldn't help not passing up on your concerns. They are correct...there are dealer costs associated that would influence the invoice price of a car. ($825 Transit Cost depending on distance) Costco does have a program with BMW that gives customers automatically $500 over invoice on selected cars. I also saw the car you are looking for and I would love to help you out in getting a better deal, ... Read More

• Re: Not getting invoice pricing on 2009 335i [jpfive]

  Written by: anowlan on Dec 28, 2009 4:02:52 PM

  There is no manufacturer holdback on BMWs so you will have a hard time finding a true deal that is actually below invoice. That's asking the dealer to take a loss on that car. $500 over invoice, minus the $2500 holiday cash for a total financed cost of $2000 under invoice is a good deal. $300 over invoice is a great deal. I paid $1250 over invoice for an ordered model. ... Read More