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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: houdini1 on May 9, 2009 11:40:41 AM
Very well said.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: vavavavolvo on May 9, 2009 11:35:59 AM
Well said.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [anon3]
Written by: lexusguy on May 9, 2009 10:25:17 AM
When you get right down to it... almost every accident is the result of human stupidity, carelessness, inattention, or lack of skill. Personally, I don't believe there are any "accidents". Most are "caused" by driver stupidity and lack of skill. Well, the word "accident" just implies that whoever was at fault was not intentionally trying to injure the other driver. I've heard the "I've been to a driver training school, or ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [vavavavolvo]
Written by: anon3 on May 9, 2009 7:26:50 AM
"Your statement that the 5 gets "five stars or a good rating in most other categories in other tests" is simply not correct." I actually take the time to READ the words in these posts and read the NHTSA ratings. Words have meaning and can be verified. My statement that the 5 Series gets 5 stars or a "good" rating in MOST of the other categories is factual. The NHTSA gave ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [palincal]
Written by: lexusguy on Apr 25, 2009 9:23:21 PM
RL is a safer car than a BMW 5-series by a big margin. In fact RL is one of the safest vehicles around. Check out http://informedforlife.org/demos/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/1MasterSCOREr.pdf for a comprehensive safety study. Thanks for that list, interesting stuff. Acura deserves credit for their commitment to safety, and they also deserve credit for quickly improving the RL's quality to among the best in the segment after a very mediocre first model year. You'll ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: palincal on Apr 25, 2009 8:43:56 PM
RL is a safer car than a BMW 5-series by a big margin. In fact RL is one of the safest vehicles around. Check out http://informedforlife.org/demos/FCKeditor/UserFiles/File/1MasterSCOREr.pdf for a comprehensive safety study. I consider reliability as one of the biggest safety factors which most studies don't take into account. BMWs are far behind Acuras in terms of reliability. I have seen enough BMWs stranded on the roadside to never consider buying one. ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [vavavavolvo]
Written by: lexusguy on Apr 24, 2009 11:11:48 AM
So on both tests from the only two US agencies that do these tests the driver proved vulnerable and fared worse than in the RL (which was the vehicle that started this discussion). The 5 did reasonably well in EuroNCAP's side impact test, but the 5 is not the best car in the segment for passive safety. There are a lot of factors that go in to making a car buying ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [anon3]
Written by: vavavavolvo on Apr 23, 2009 5:09:26 PM
Your statement that the 5 gets "five stars or a good rating in most or all other categories in other tests" is simply not correct. It got a marginal rating in the IIHS side impact test for the driver side (as you noted). The other US testing organization, NHTSA, gave it 3/5 stars in driver's front impact score. So on both tests from the only two US agencies that do these ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [vavavavolvo]
Written by: anon3 on Apr 23, 2009 2:45:33 PM
"If there is a chance you might be unfortunate enough to be T-boned in a side impact I would strongly re-think a list where you rate the new 5 series above the RL." And yet the 5 series gets five stars or a "good" rating in most or all of the other categories in other tests. So yes, if you think you are likely to be t-boned by a "moving deformable ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1]
Written by: carolinabob on Mar 31, 2009 1:40:08 PM
Last April I was offered a fully loaded RL for $11,000 off MSRP, but just couldn't see it. Nice car, but too small and way too expensive compared to other cars in same class. The new TL is much better. The "new" Acura front ends do not help though. Consumer Reports used to rank TL and RL at the top of their categories, but no longer. See April issue. TL may ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [laurasdada]
Written by: jensad on Mar 31, 2009 11:47:04 AM
I agree with you as to the TL vs. RL in pricing. I sent emails to all the dealers in my area, and stated what I wanted i.e. RL, with tech. The TL seemd smaller and it reminded me of the Lexus gs450 that I test drove two months before. Felt boxed in there too. The TL was not as much but the difference in what I was looking for got ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [laurasdada]
Written by: houdini1 on Mar 30, 2009 7:55:10 PM
I would agree with that. The RL is simply priced too high. I think it would compete quite nicely in the $35 to $40 K range, but I guess that would infringe on the TL. Like a lot of others, my solution was to buy a slightly used LS 430.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1]
Written by: laurasdada on Mar 30, 2009 2:27:44 PM
IMO, the RL did not offer enough in terms of style, space, content and performance over the prior version TL. At least not enough for the pricing delta...
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: shmang on Mar 30, 2009 1:54:57 PM
"I have never understood why the RL does not sell better. Potential buyers went across the street to try the Lexus, Infiniti, BMW, Mercedes, or even Audi, and never came back. " That is exactly what I did - was interested in the RL and went for a test drive. Want to bring wife to look at it before make the decision. Before we can get to that stage, I looked ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: houdini1 on Mar 30, 2009 12:54:53 PM
Lol !
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1]
Written by: lexusguy on Mar 30, 2009 12:31:33 PM
I have never understood why the RL does not sell better. Potential buyers went across the street to try the Lexus, Infiniti, BMW, Mercedes, or even Audi, and never came back.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
Written by: kyfdx on Apr 6, 2009 9:49:48 AM
Green/orange? That's a nice color combo... I've seen that somewhere... Just can't place my finger on it.. ;)
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1]
Written by: jensad on Mar 30, 2009 11:02:32 AM
I purchased an 08 RL with tech over one year ago. The vehicle has performed excellently compared to my trade-in rx330. Indeed I have all the power I need/want, luxury, excellent radio/cd players, and excellent service. The Lexus service was C +. Compared to my Lexus dealer down the road, Acura service has treated me very very well, i.e A +. I intend to drive my RL for at least to ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [bruinlee]
Written by: cdnpinhead on Mar 30, 2009 5:57:59 AM
I'm driving your car's little brother (TSX) & have about 16K trouble-free miles on it so far. Bought it new a year ago with a manual trans & no nav, so I'm on the other end of the scale as far as bells & whistles are concerned; everything on the car works perfectly though, & I expect that to continue for a long time. Enjoy the RL -- sounds like you ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: mobiusf1 on Apr 6, 2009 8:10:15 AM
Actually, I love the little green lights. It's a nice contrast to the orange and its stands out.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [bruinlee]
Written by: houdini1 on Mar 30, 2009 5:32:52 AM
Sounds like you got a great deal. I have never understood why the RL does not sell better. My 02 RL was arguably the best car I have owned and I actually like the styling of the newer ones. Happy motoring.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [rockshocka1]
Written by: lexusguy on Apr 5, 2009 4:59:27 PM
I love how everything is lit with a nice, definitely, not too glaring red. Indeed. I also like how the accent lighting, such as the button effect lights, are soft and don't clash with the main lighting. They are either amber or red, and are just bright enough to let you know at a glance that the button is on. My wife's BMW uses ultra-bright green accent lights, which are distracting ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: mobiusf1 on Apr 5, 2009 2:34:04 PM
True, it looks pretty sick at night
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2007 Acura RL
Written by: bruinlee on Mar 29, 2009 10:16:43 PM
I just purchased '07 Acura RL with 15k miles on it for 31k. The car is immaculate condition and my other choice was BMW 530i. But the luxury items in the car made my wife to pick the RL over 530i. As I read the manual after I brought the car home, there are much more items that only the truly luxury car could offer :) . Very happy with the ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: rockshocka1 on Apr 5, 2009 2:20:04 PM
Totally agree on the interior lighting of the Audis. When researching the cars on the net, even Edmunds pics reflected the interior at night poorly. Too much glare, & a caption to the effect of a plane's cockpit at night. I love how everything is lit with a nice, definitely, not too glaring red.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1]
Written by: lexusguy on Apr 5, 2009 2:04:45 PM
I have never owned an Audi but that might make a nice change. I would not rule one out in the future. It seems like sort of a compromise between BMW and Lexus. That's a fair assessment. If you get a chance, drive an Audi at night. One of the things I like most about Audi is their fanatical attention to interior detail, and you really notice that at night when ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [pg48477]
Written by: mobiusf1 on Apr 5, 2009 1:19:03 PM
Your right on. honestly with the whole reliability thing, the 3 and 5 are fairly reliably cars, not like they used to be back in the 90s. And BMWs on the whole hold their value better than Lexus so the whole lease vs. purchase is even less of an argument.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
Written by: pg48477 on Apr 4, 2009 5:22:42 PM
I beg to disagree, the reason why you have certain perception of the car company is because of the type of cars it produce/produced. Lexus simply never made sport oriented cars (may be until recently with ISF) and for this reason many would never consider purchasing one. For me Lexus does not have anything over BMW. BMW handles better, it's faster ( in case of 535) and more luxurious. Without sports ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
Written by: houdini1 on Apr 4, 2009 12:28:45 PM
I can still remember how utterly foolish I felt when my kids were growing up and for some reason or other I had to drive one of their cars...(camaro, sentra, mitsubishi, etc.) I also think our preferences can change over the years. For a long time it was either BMW or Mercedes for me but for the last 10 years or so it has been mostly Lexus, with a 2002 RL ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1]
Written by: mobiusf1 on Apr 4, 2009 11:31:54 AM
Agreed. As much as we're all taking about great performance and this and that, the fact is a lot of people do buy cars based on psychology. Being honest, even if Lexus made some amazing performance car to compete w/ the 5 series I would still have trouble thinking about purchasing it because of my image of Lexus. I definitely wouldn't feel right in it.
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: houdini1 on Apr 4, 2009 6:37:22 AM
Lexus doesn't seem to offer any threat at all which I'm not surprised about. I really don't think Lexus has any intention of trying to duplicate a 5 series any more than BMW wants to duplicate a GS, so likewise, I don't see any threats to the GS from BMW. Both cars have their pros and cons with Lexus leaning more toward luxury and reliability and BMW toward austerity and performance. ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
Written by: lexusguy on Apr 3, 2009 11:44:58 PM
Lexus doesn't seem to offer any threat at all which I'm not surprised about.......unless they design a F model GS, a driver's GS, similar to the IS-F but without the garish looking fake tailpipes and at a competitive price. But that won't happen, haha. I'm not sure what the future of the F program is at this point. The LF-A was supposed to be an F car, but that may or ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy]
Written by: mobiusf1 on Apr 3, 2009 4:55:02 PM
Thanks for the input! :) I've definitely heard people say its cold, but to be honest, I don't get that same vibe. I love the exterior design, I always have, its edgy and aggressive. That's not to say I don't love the previous generation 5 series look, its just different. And the interior is fantastic (except for interior storage space) with excellent quality materials and superb attention to detail. You need ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
Written by: jensad on Apr 2, 2009 11:39:59 AM
I drove the 535 and it is fun, very nice handling, and at 110 mph, it brakes very well. Almost bought it, but after I tried out the Acura RL, and being able to discount the RL for the price, better ratings on safety, and ride which is also fun, exciting at 120 mph, I decided for the RL. Both are excellent vehicle and choices. Either way a buyer will enjoy ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [vavavavolvo]
Written by: lexusguy on Apr 1, 2009 9:52:16 PM
If there is a chance you might be unfortunate enough to be T-boned in a side impact I would strongly re-think a list where you rate the new 5 series above the RL. The current 5 did reasonably well in EuroNCAP's side impact test. It's not the best car in the segment for safety, but it's not what I would call an unsafe car. Also, the 5 can easily out handle ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
Written by: lexusguy on Apr 1, 2009 9:47:16 PM
Great choice, the 535i is a fantastic car, definitely my favorite car in the segment. Very good write up on the various current mid-sizers. I agree with almost all of your points, but I've never been a fan of the current 5. I really liked the old 540i Sport and the old M5, but the current 5 just leaves me cold. Curious, were the A6 models you tested equipped with the ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [vavavavolvo]
Written by: mobiusf1 on Apr 1, 2009 6:39:46 PM
I definitely understand that concern but I knew that coming in. Definitely see how that could change someone's opinion on what they're going to pick up. Don't know how the M35x does though. I still rate the 535i (xi) as the best car in the segment. Drive the 535 and the RL back to back and you'll see the difference. I see where you're coming from though and how that could ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
Written by: vavavavolvo on Apr 1, 2009 5:53:54 PM
If there is a chance you might be unfortunate enough to be T-boned in a side impact I would strongly re-think a list where you rate the new 5 series above the RL. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=122205
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [pg48477]
Written by: mobiusf1 on Apr 1, 2009 3:42:55 AM
Midsize Luxury Sports Sedans: Great choice, the 535i is a fantastic car, definitely my favorite car in the segment. I picked up a 535xi last summer. After driving all the cars in the segment (except the Jag XF, but I'm not really a Jag fan) I easily picked the 535xi which I was fairly confident I was going to pick when I started. The M35x, although the 2nd best performer I ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [carolinabob]
Written by: pg48477 on Mar 31, 2009 7:15:43 PM
I always like Acuras and test drove RL and TL before make decision on my new car. I ended up getting a grate deal on 535i. And I got to tell you, driving wise it is day and night, BMW feels like it's on rails while having comfortable ride. Also, I feel that material are better quality as well. I could not believe the difference between RL and 535. One thing ... Read More
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Re: Looking for used Luxury Sedan [clarence10]
Written by: lexusguy on Feb 23, 2009 10:23:13 PM
Here is my question, i have been test driving 2006/5 RL's with around 35-38k miles and the $22-$24k price range. It seems like a nice car, but it is a bit tighter inside then the M. Does anyone have suggestions for other cars to look at? I really want AWD, and need to transport my family of 4. I assume you're not interested in just buying out your M35X? It seems ... Read More
